Current Affairs Ukraine

[bluerobert]

Hitler was worse is the general consensus.
He tried to industrially exterminate an entire perceived race of people in a controlled, industrial way.
That can't be said about Stalin.

I mean he starved nearly 4 million Ukrainians to death. It’s a photo finish

 

[Death]

Asking you to verify your claims is "showing their true colours"?

It was a Ukrainian diplomat interviewing a few Ukranians. I did say apparently.

Not hard to believe money can get you anything in Ukraine. Anywhere really if you have enough of it.

 

[Yarrgh]

To be fair credit cards aren’t that widely used in Russia

BS mate. My wife has 2 and she's only been back once since covid.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Now on reddit video of our (Croatian) volunteer in Azov battalion calling other people to join, wearing our fascist (letter U) symbol from WW2

Ustasa people went there? wow

 

[Mrk]

Really salient point:

 

[stipe]

Ustasa people went there? wow

They were already there en masse in 2014, while Serbs joined other side

 

[Kev The Rat]

BS mate. My wife has 2 and she's only been back once since covid.

In terms of usage it’s been stated that only 20% of the population has a credit card so no I don’t think it’s BS at all

 

[Deleted member 48881]

They were already there en masse in 2014, while Serbs joined other side

So why do they fight for a Jew then?

 

[stipe]

So why do they fight for a Jew then?

Well i don't know, but from what i read Azov battalion is neo-Nazi group, now integrated in Ukrainian military. They are now under siege in Mariupol

 

[Lobster Johnson]

BS mate. My wife has 2 and she's only been back once since covid.

This was the report I was working off, happy to be corrected as always. It does look like credit card penetration is roughly in line with the world average, though

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[BlueToff]

I'd argue that none of that matters right now.

Swap roles and would Boris Johnson be taking up arms against an invader?

Running a country is far easier than defending it.

Well yeah this is what I meant

 

[BlueToff]

If UK people overwhelmingly support a military response against Russia (only within UKR) via protests or online referandums/polls, despite warnings about it consequences, would British army help Ukraine?

No, because that would start WW3. It’d also be a political decision - so it would be on the government (and they’d have to okay it with nato) to fight back I’d imagine

Nobody wants a war (apart from putin it seems)

 

[Kev The Rat]

No, because that would start WW3. It’d also be a political decision

It will end up being a forgotten war like Donbas

I can see it now.

And back to getting his oil and gas within a year.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Well i don't know, but from what i read Azov battalion is neo-Nazi group, now integrated in Ukrainian military. They are now under siege in Mariupol

We all know about Azov. Anyway, reading reddit people are joining from all political fractions to help defend Ukraine

 

[Blue Roo]

NATO doesn't make countries not be independent though? it's just a bloody alliance - one that Russia could have been part of. They aren't perfect, far from it. The West aren't. Nobody is. But we're looking at something totally different here.

No it wasn't inevitable that Russia would go to war for those reasons. The only reason is because there's a lunatic dictator in charge of that country. He's rigged elections, killed off political opponents, invaded Georgia and annexed part of Ukraine previously (long before any talk of them being in NATO). He is obsessed with the return of some form of the Soviet Union, it seems.

You know who was top of Russia's hit list for a good few years - may even still well be? The bloody doctor who was on that Icarus documentary. He is currently - and has been for some years - hiding under witness protection in the US. For a doctor who revealed a doping scandal...

This is what we're dealing with here. No need to play devil's advocate.