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[Tree13]

It’s pathetic - showing their true colours

IRONY OVERLOAD ALARM.

 

[Death]

That doesn't count as an explanation, sir.

Try to be better than @Kev The Rat . At least pretend to try.

I seen a Ukrainian diplomat interview a few ukrainians at the border. Its what they were saying. Cars worth 80k+ sliding on through etc.

As said apparently. Not trying to tit for tat on this. Especially on a minuscule level such as. Just a tid bit for discussion.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Lots of ignored content flashing up here someone has had too many cups of coffee this morning

 

[verreauxi]

Nothing to see here…just my local mayor tweeting out his admiration for Putin.

 

[tsubaki]

And this is what the west does so well.

er - if they wanted to extradite him for espionage they would have done it, in fact they are doing it. So to claim two women made up allegations to frame him is not only not necessary, it’s pretty offensive

 

[Tree13]

Hitler was worse is the general consensus.
He tried to industrially exterminate an entire perceived race of people in a controlled, industrial way.
That can't be said about Stalin.

Stalin killed 4 million Ukrainians in less than 18 months.

Google "the Holomodor", 1932 / 1933.

I'd say he and Hitler were on a par.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

er - if they wanted to extradite him for espionage they would have done it, in fact they are doing it. So to claim two women made up allegations to frame him is not only not necessary, it’s pretty offensive

To be fair, if they really wanted to get him out they could have just parked some speakers outside and played this. He'd have been out like a shot.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

 

[Tree13]

Any UK immigration lawyers on here?

@Kev The Rat is your man. He knows EVERYTHING.

 

[Tree13]

In terms of usage it’s been stated that only 20% of the population has a credit card so no I don’t think it’s BS at all

Stating it is not the same as it being proved as true. At the moment, it's an unverified claim.

Any independent verification on this topic would be welcome and definitely serve to inform the conversation.

 

[peteblue]

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What? Do they still operate on a mostly cash system?

Potatoes………

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Nah I don’t think so Kev. Look at everything that’s happened in the last few days re. Sanctions. This doesn’t get forgotten

Yeah. If anybody thinks that Kyiv falls and Putin's puppet gets to the office, and we go back to our lives pre Feb 24? How delusional can they be?

Imagine Visa/Master Card saying 'oh you won, kudos bro, here then we lift the sanctions, give Caesar what is due'

 

[Tree13]

Lots of ignored content flashing up here someone has had too many cups of coffee this morning

If you weren't scared of having your BS called out as BS, you wouldn't ignore people.

Are the walls in your echo chamber painted Soviet red, by any chance?

 

[Blue Roo]

Why do those countries want to be part of NATO, mate?

The wealth and opportunity they don't think they currently have.
They want what we've 'got'.
The inconvenient truth is that the wealth of the west is at the expense of the rest of the world.s
It maybe that we the west only see the devastation the west has caused when we are all 'western.

What westerners fail to recognise is the stability that Russia (and China up until reccently) has provided western markets. When that is taken away by the insistence of the west for more, well it may seem counterintuitive right now, but a greater instability and volatility will likely follow. The west will have nowhere to go but eat itself.

We pay no respect tot he East. We point our fingers at the oligarchs, the powerful state bureaucracy and the 'destitution' of the east.
When the oligarchs no longer own the gas pipelines and their in private investment control will the people be better off or just the portfolios of the elite.
Westerners underestimate the scale of what it takes to manage a land so vast, no one else in the world can to speak to Russia of this.
How much better do you think the West will do....when the private gas prices aren't afforded to those who can't pay.
Will the west conveniently forget about the people of the eastern plains.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I seen a Ukrainian diplomat interview a few ukrainians at the border. Its what they were saying. Cars worth 80k+ sliding on through etc.

As said apparently. Not trying to tit for tat on this. Especially on a minuscule level such as. Just a tid bit for discussion.

No doubt it does go on, and as time passes in a war of attrition, more and more of this will be happening.

Ukraine has been suffering a population decline for many years now as it is.