Current Affairs Ukraine

[stipe]

Let's not fall into who was the worst dictator Hitler or Stalin...

I mean there is no question here, if Soviets didn't beat them and pushed them from the gates from Moscow to Berlin, all of us in Eastern Europe would get eventually exterminated, read about Generalplan Ost

Here people like to brag (at least the one whose relatives were in Tito Partisans) that we liberated our own country, but in reality, if Soviets didn't pushed them, all of us would be smashed here in ex-Yugoslavia

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Shown up for what we are a nation of mealy mouthed hypocrites.

Ukrainian woman berates Boris Johnson for not doing more ‘as children take hit’

‘You are not coming to Lviv because you are afraid!’ the woman said

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 48881]

I feel public opinion is definitely moving in that direction. I think many of those who support it would (wrongly) believe it'd only be volunteer trained troops heading over there though...

volunteer trained troops? you mean the professional army, not the regular folk?

 

[stipe]

Shown up for what we are a nation of mealy mouthed hypocrites.

Ukrainian woman berates Boris Johnson for not doing more ‘as children take hit’

‘You are not coming to Lviv because you are afraid!’ the woman said

www.independent.co.uk

I mean what he is supposed to do, any European/Nato country move in and its WW3

 

[Zatara]

And? They issue credit cards

But mate...

They don't issue credit cards. The banks issue credit cards with the payments facilitated by the Mir system.

At least that's my reading of it.

Actually they do.

 

[Kev The Rat]

To be fair credit cards aren’t that widely used in Russia

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I mean what he is supposed to do, any European/Nato country move in and its WW3

We are doing the least of any other European country, I wonder why?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

But mate...


Actually they do.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[Lune1878]

The only issue with a no-fly zone is that you need to enforce it, which means you may need to shoot a plane down. That’s a catalyst for war.

It would be a tough call to make that’s for sure

 

[stipe]

We are doing the least of any other European country, I wonder why?

Weren't you like toughest and first one who sent weapons? Like it was Germany who was very slow to move, blocking SWIFT and weapons delivery, everyone was shitting on Germany on social media.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

I mean there is no question here, if Soviets didn't beat them and pushed them from the gates from Moscow to Berlin, all of us in Eastern Europe would get eventually exterminated, read about Generalplan Ost

Here people like to brag (at least the one whose relatives were in Tito Partisans) that we liberated our own country, but in reality, if Soviets didn't pushed them, all of us would be smashed here in ex-Yugoslavia

Hitler was worse is the general consensus.
He tried to industrially exterminate an entire perceived race of people in a controlled, industrial way.
That can't be said about Stalin.

 

[efcfanwirral]

volunteer trained troops? you mean the professional army, not the regular folk?

ha yes - I meant non conscripts. Surely Russia could send vast numbers over by conscription themselves, so is a road we may need to look at? Trying to say huge numbers of those behind military action don't believe they would be forced to go themselves, when they could be wrong on that if things go wrong.

 

[TN Toffee]

To be fair credit cards aren’t that widely used in Russia

What? Do they still operate on a mostly cash system?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

To be fair credit cards aren’t that widely used in Russia

Actually, that is a fair assessment looking at some analysis I was able to call up professionally (don't tell the boss!) Credit card penetration is about 20% (at least it was in 2019, the last record available). Of those however more than 70% were facilitated by Visa or Mastercard. Mir was about 25%.

 

[Charro]

We are doing the least of any other European country, I wonder why?

This isnt true at all.