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What was done yesterday in the major attack on a maternity/children's hospital shows that this man is capable of any atrocity. If we go to MAD well at least I hope I will meet my deceased family and friends again.

At least I have had a decent life and career. Sorry for younger generation who may not get a chance to do the same. All because of one horrible person. Defies belief.
I get what you are saying mate but in my mind, Putin is a coward. Sitting a mile away from face to face meeting attendees shows it.

He has built a hard man image based on what? Wearing a Gi, riding a horse...

He has not faced serious opponent yet.
 
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Putin is a coward and his body language has been analyzed during his last telecast the professionals see a very seething individual disillusioned in his attacking force and inept generals.

Watching CNBC today a financial network here in the States a analyst said the Russian economy will implode by the summer. Hard to finance any kind of war machine with that staring you in the face.

A question why did Putin remove his troops from the Southern border with China for this conflict have they a serious problem with their other units? So far it seems so.

The U.S. FGM-148 Javelin has been so potent the Russians don't have a answer for this. These brave Ukrainian solders have implemented tactics that have shrunk the Tank population of the mighty aggressors.

How long can the Ukrainian's hold out? They are a testimony for all of us. Giving the ultimate price playing out in all our living rooms.

Eventually, the penny will drop and nations will need to use their noggin and ween themselves from any kind of oil, gas or commodities from the Russians. It will take time but take note or another following Putin will have that leverage again on a unsuspecting generation.
 
To me that displays how crazy this situation is.

They are cousins (Ukraine/Russia).

In an alternate universe it feels like Scotland invading England or visa versa.

All of this is the wet dream of a scumbag that grew up in the Soviet era and thinks the invaded countries wanted to be oppressed. The rat!
To me, it shows a lack of discipline and perhaps testament to the state of their supplies.
 
True collateral damage, though, is where you hit a military target, but injure/kill civilians nearby, or you miss your target and accidentally hit civilians. Deliberately aiming at civilian targets, especially hospitals, is a different thing altogether. Admittedly, innocent civilians wind up dead in either case, but there's a big difference in numbers and intent.
I don't disagree with you, but I feel that it's more opaque than the dictionary definition and perhaps the perception of the major population.

What Russia did was a war-crime and as you mention, not collateral damage in the truest sense. But, as part of the wider operation, they'll say it is.

Armed forces have an objective. While they may not intentionally want to kill civilians, collateral damage is the euphemism for acceptable killing to facilitate it.

In layman's terms, people feel the term describes those who are accidentally killed or injured, whereas it's actually used to account for those deemed acceptable.

The Russian army clearly has a much higher threshold that those in the west and it's deplorable, but let's not kid ourselves that our forces have limits too.

By the way, I'm not justifying it in any way - far from it. It may also come across as heartless how it's described and that's not my intention either.

However, in reality, this is how military systems work.
 
So what's the point of it?

It's almost like the government doesn't want any immigrants...

It's exactly what it, no almost, sadly there are plenty of people who now vote Tory because they have harnessed the vote of the racist and exonphobe, don't want any type of person for whatever reason who is not indigenous to the UK. A government only behaves like this because it can see political merit and happy to use it.

 
To think this forum is considering the real possibility of nuclear Armageddon and Everton getting relegated at the same time.

GOT's darkest hour by some distance

FWIW I believe the West have this strategy spot on. As previous posters have said, there's no good way out of this now. Letting Putin's war effort falter is more likely to result in the end of him than any other outcome. We need to do all we can to provide sanctuary to those fleeing the fighting whilst continuing to arm the Ukrainians. Putin will be desperate to drag NATO into this so we need to be careful... A negotiated settlement where territory is passed to Russia would be spun as a Russian victory and will only kick the can further down the road.

I don't think he'll go fully nuclear. It's a bluff that would result in the complete destruction of his beloved motherland
 
It's exactly what it, no almost, sadly there are plenty of people who now vote Tory because they have harnessed the vote of the racist and exonphobe, don't want any type of person for whatever reason who is not indigenous to the UK. A government only behaves like this because it can see political merit and happy to use it.


The average Tory middle Englander attitude is probably something like:
"it's terrible what's happening but we haven't got room for them here"
Or
"how many countries do they have to get through to get here. They should be happy to stay in one of those."

It's disgraceful. The government is giving the oligarchs more assistance in moving their wealth before sanctions kick in than families being bombed out of their homes.
 
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