Current Affairs Ukraine

[tommye]

Then he came for us and there was nobody left to help us.

Great sentiment mate. I am just bewildered as to what we can do. If NATO gets involved it is kiss your a... Goodbye and hand the keys of the world to China.

Once one presses the first button then it's probably goodbye all of us, China included.
Nobody comes out of any of this a 'winner' anymore. Just damage limitation now.

 

[Glasshalffull]

Maybe you should read my previous posts?
Apology?

No. If your previous posts are different, then how am I to know? All I can go by is what you said. If there's more to it, you should have said it.

 

[Davideeyore]

Once one presses the first button then it's probably goodbye all of us, China included.
Nobody comes out of any of this a 'winner' anymore. Just damage limitation now.

If you go by Sky news it's chemical weapons next. As I said earlier are the west safeguarding the world or just themselves?

 

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[thirdmantackle]

Genuinely, why "the Ukraine"? This has probably been asked here before but still...

Think I've watched so many WW2 documentaries and that is what it was called

 

[bluebud]

Incredible bravery there, who could say they’d face down four soldiers with guns like that? Honestly don’t think I could.

 

[Bluerover]

Think I've watched so many WW2 documentaries and that is what it was called

I have also seen that before but really no reason for 'the'.

 

[Davideeyore]

I have also seen that before but really no reason for 'the'.

I don't know but listening to the news I think it's a legacy of the Soviet Union, as in the Ukraine. They are their own country they are just Ukraine.

 

[john jako]

Completely ignorant to this and I can't believe I'm actually posting this as a serious question, but where do we stand in terms of defense against a nuclear strike?
For example, Israel uses the Iron Dome system for air defense against missiles and the like, is there something similar in use across Europe that could defend against a potential nuclear strike?

Best bet is to move to a location like the Orkney islands. Being close to any city or port, you’re toast.

 

[Dylan]

You'll know a lot more than I do, but from the same person I was under the impression that many of the SLBMs don't carry their maximum warhead payload.

With the high CEP rates and lower yields, he alluded that a precision strike on Catterick Garrison could leave Catterick itself with only slight damage.

In terms of Liverpool, that's like dropping an air bust 50-100Kt weapon on one of the cathedrals, and your house in Huyton may actually be fine.

He'd had about seven pints at the time though, so he may have been chatting utter wham.

The Trident II D-5 missiles can carry up to 12 MIRV's though the number they go to sea with isn't known (even to the crew) though I know they are now limited by treaties to something like 6 per missile. And the D-5 can carry 2 different types of warhead configured to different yields....from half a MT down to just a few kT.

You will never find a SLBM with a CEP of smaller around 200meters (regardless of what it actually is, which I don't know.....wasn't my part of the ship) as anything more accurate could be considered as a first strike weapon, whereas the SLBM's are second strike - the nuclear deterrent weapon.

Though I do know hardened targets aren't a problem (you know, the hardened command and control bunkers buried deep under a mountain) - delayed fusing and a penetrator design take care of things like that.

 

[tommye]

Heartbreaking seeing this unfold right in front of our eyes and being so helpless to do anything about it.

 

[Dylan]

Taiwan comes to mind

The difference is the US has an obligation to defend Taiwan........Ukraine chose not to join NATO on several occasions. I suspect, if they had joined, this mess wouldn't be happening.

 

[Bluerover]

Heartbreaking seeing this unfold right in front of our eyes and being so helpless to do anything about it.

That couple deserves some sort of medal from the UN. What courage!

 

[Bluerover]

One for the dog too!!

 

[Dylan]

Completely ignorant to this and I can't believe I'm actually posting this as a serious question, but where do we stand in terms of defense against a nuclear strike?
For example, Israel uses the Iron Dome system for air defense against missiles and the like, is there something similar in use across Europe that could defend against a potential nuclear strike?

the US has been testing BMD for years with varying degrees of success. More success recently than failure.

I know nothing more about it other than reading on wikipedia

Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System - Wikipedia

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Terminal High Altitude Area Defense - Wikipedia

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Ground-Based Midcourse Defense - Wikipedia

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