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[spectateur]

Cowards

No, just poor conscripted young men.
You don't expect them to stay there and commit suicide for a cause they're unsure about do you.

 

[bluebud]

Hopefully all the proceeds of the sale in the future will now go towards rebuilding Ukraine.

 

[Tramps_mate]

I understand the sentiment, but every death of a young Russian is also a tragedy. I doubt many of them want anything to do with what’s happening and just want to be at home with their families.

Totally agree. The young Russians are doing what they're told.. anyone being killed is a tragedy.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

No, just poor conscripted young men.
You don't expect them to stay there and commit suicide for a cause they're unsure about do you.

I was going to say this in my original post. I was referring to Russias invasion as a whole, bombing maternity units and civilians and then running and cowering fir their lives when it’s on them.
I’m fully aware that these men are no more than pawns , but they are still complicit in slaughter
Cowards

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Completely ignorant to this and I can't believe I'm actually posting this as a serious question, but where do we stand in terms of defense against a nuclear strike?
For example, Israel uses the Iron Dome system for air defense against missiles and the like, is there something similar in use across Europe that could defend against a potential nuclear strike?

As far as the UK is concerned we come under NATO's Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence (ALTBMD) programme that is supposed to provide complete coverage for NATO countries against tactical ballistic missiles with ranges up to 3,000 km. We are also linked into the US GMD system for ICBM defence.

There are two Ballistic Missile warning sites located in the UK and they are linked into this ALTBMD system as well as the US GMD system (The GMD system can intercept ICBM at ranges out to 10,000 km

ALTBM Interceptors are based around the Aegis system deploying SM3 BIIA missiles based in Rota in spain (4 x US Aegis destroyers) - other interceptors include sites in Turkey and Romania (these are land-based Aegis sytems). Other land-based Aegis sytems are due to be installed in Poland. Not sure about how the US GMD system is setup.

I think BMD (Ballistic Missile Defence) is the one of the main reasons Putin kicked off over Ukraine as in theory it blows the principle of MAD (Mutually assured destruction) out of the water. By this I mean that an aggressor who has a BMD system could in theory launch a nuclear first strike on an opponent. Once the opponent sees the launch of nukes it would immediately launch its own missiles back (MAD). However the aggressor here employs his BMD to knock out all the incoming nukes in low earth orbit - ergo, the theory of MAD no longer exists.

 

[Bluerover]

As far as the UK is concerned we come under NATO's Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence (ALTBMD) programme that is supposed to provide complete coverage for NATO countries against tactical ballistic missiles with ranges up to 3,000 km. We are alos linked into the US GMD system for ICBM defence.

There are two Ballistic Missile warning sites located in the UK and they are linked into this ALTBMD system as well as the US GMD system (The GMD system can intercept ICBM at ranges out to 10,000 km

Interceptors are based around the Aegis system deploying SM3 BIIA missiles based in Rota in spain (4 x US Aegis destroyers) - other interceptors include sites in Turkey and Romania (these are land-based Aegis sytems). Other land-based Aegis sytems are due to be installed in Poland

I think BMD (Ballistic Missile Defence) is the one of the main reasons Putin kicked off over Ukraine as in theory it blows the principle of MAD (Mutually assured destruction) out of the water. By this I mean that an aggressor who has a BMD system could in theory launch a nuclear first strike on an opponent. Once the opponent sees the launch of nukes it would immediately launch its own missiles back (MAD) However the aggressor here employs his BMD to knock out all the incoming nukes in space - ergo, the theory of MAD no longer exists.

Please God this is never tested.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Christ, that Lavrov bloke really is a piece of work "We don't have to justify our invasion of Ukraine"

 

[bluebud]

Ukrainian soldier1;- “ Have that bitches”
Ukrainian soldier2:- “F there’s bits of it everywhere “

 

[Bluerover]

Ukrainian soldier1;- “ Have that bitches”
Ukrainian soldier2:- “F there’s bits of it everywhere “

The horrors of war.

 

[Yarrgh]

Christ, that Lavrov bloke really is a piece of work "We don't have to justify our invasion of Ukraine"

He's been a hard faced monster for a long time.

 

[Simon Buttle]

He's been a hard faced monster for a long time.

I can't stand him, he actually manages to come out with stuff that is worse than Putin at times.

 

[Wizard]

Ireland confirms Patel raised concerns about ‘backdoor’ to UK for Ukrainian refugees

UK stance branded ‘disgraceful’ and ‘irresponsible’ by MPs in Dublin

www.independent.co.uk

 

[ToffeeTim]

Christ, that Lavrov bloke really is a piece of work "We don't have to justify our invasion of Ukraine"

I don't know how he can actually say some of the things he's coming out with. There is propoganda and then there is this drivel. Surely he can't believe the nonsense he is spouting

 

[Davideeyore]

Labrov just sprouts a mirror of the truth and other nonsense and propaganda. It's painful to watch such a
person. It's a propaganda machine.

This is the problem, while they actively create the war and the suffering and blame everyone else, we are
pandering to them with a piecemeal approach. Too scared to intervene. The attempts to negotiate or
to have ceasefire is just folly. They're not going to change. They're not going to back down and do an about turn.
They see no wrong, in what they do, but everything wrong, in what Ukraine and 'the west' do.

There's only so long you can use red tape. For their sake [Ukraine] Russia have to be stopped or this will
not end well in Ukraine and will not end there.

 

[Bluerover]

Ireland confirms Patel raised concerns about ‘backdoor’ to UK for Ukrainian refugees

UK stance branded ‘disgraceful’ and ‘irresponsible’ by MPs in Dublin

www.independent.co.uk

Disgusting. How low can this Tory government go?