Current Affairs Ukraine

[coollino]

"Geneva Convention" will be another phrase that means nothing to you, I presume?

Targeting civilians during military combat is a "war crime" (look that term up). It's the absolute absence of humanity. What on earth has happened to your moral compass?

an ex-member of the Russian government described war as 'drama' on Ch4 news last night

 

[Kev The Rat]

You are clearly just trying to be edgy now and provocative.
Get on ignore you attention seeking quilt.

I’m sanctioning you, in your piss stained undies sat there revelling in human misery, getting a cheap thrill out of the misery this is causing.

Oh and Kevin Ratcliffes a dreadfully dim and dreary football commentator too.

Well at least I wont have to waste another number on you

 

[Blue Roo]

A sovereign state being able to license and sell its own sovereign commodity isn't communism. The UK isn't following communism by selling our gas.


All ruled by Putin and his cronies, aye? Well, it would stop the Russian Army from invading a sovereign country and causing untold death and destruction.

I'd have Pugin and the Russian regime gone, no doubt, but again if you don't think the West had the major role in forcing his hand your deluded. Its not as black and white as the big baddy must be defeated for these types of tragedies to go away. Far from it.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Our advice to make this forum work;

• Don't be a tit.

If you are, your account will be denied access to this current affairs forum.

God speed.

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[blulouie]

Gone South

Gone East

 

[coollino]

honestly never through i'd see Putin apologists. I've even agreed with the odd Spiked article and Cummings tweet ffs

 

[Yarrgh]

Come on @GrandOldTeam - have a word. It's surely not forum policy to allow people to endorse war crimes.

Can see the mods at their UN Security Council style meeting. Who will wield the veto or abstain?

 

[Tree13]

It must be a record for the number of times someone is fingered in a thread.

And also for the number of times a poster has fingered themselves whilst posting on a single thread.

 

[bluebud]

 

[Tree13]

We would if we didn't know you were still reading them Kev. You're saying some weird stuff here, I think we're getting close to the "NFL is scripted" stage of your meltdown

I'm waiting for @Kev The Rat to post a retweet from Russia Today showing Patrick Mahomes in full Russian fatigues with a Chechen beard standing guard over a vanquished Joe Burrow and Volodomir Zelenskyy.

Hopefully he'll screenshot it prior to it being smeared with his semen.

 

[verreauxi]

Come on @GrandOldTeam - have a word. It's surely not forum policy to allow people to endorse war crimes.

Or to accuse everyone else on the forum of actually wanting nuclear war, which is a ridiculous accusation on par with me showing up here and saying something like "all of you here on GOT enjoy murder."

 

[Tree13]

er - you’re the one who wasn’t awake for the State of the Union; it was yesterday night

Indeed true. Time difference, and overwhelming lack of interest in Biden.

 

[davmaher]

From the BBC re UK sanctions. Looks like the usual mix of lies and dissemination from Johnson and co. Still no news on any Usmanov sanctions by the UK. The Tories have been supping with the Russian devil for so long now it gives them nowhere to go on this without risking full disclosure of what they have been up to.


At Prime Minister's Questions, Boris Johnson told MPs the actions the UK had taken in response to the invasion of Ukraine "are having an effect in Moscow".
He said the UK had sanctioned "275 individuals already, a further 100 last week, the impact is being felt".
Mr Johnson has referred to the 100 figure several times in the past week. But when Reality Check asked for the names of the 100, the government could not provide them and said: "We'll let you know as soon as we have further details to add."
Instead, it sent a list of every person and company currently sanctioned by the UK, including people from Iran and North Korea. It shows that 15 individuals have been sanctioned in the past week:

• Russian President Vladimir Putin
• Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov,
• Belarusian Deputy Minister of Defence for Logistics Maj Gen Andrei Burdyko,
• General Staff of the Armed Forces of Belarus Maj Gen Victor Gulevich
• Belarusian Deputy Minister of Defence for Armaments Sergei Simonenko
• Belarusian Deputy Minister of Defence Andrey Zhuk,
• Russian Direct Investment Fund chief executive Kirill Dmitriev
• VTB Bank deputy president Denis Bortnikov
• Petr Fradkov, who chairs Promsvyazbank
• PAO Sibur Holding board deputy chairman Kirill Shamalov
• PJSC United Aircraft Corporation general director Yury Slyusar
• Elena Georgieva, who chairs the board of Novikombank
• Bank Rossiya major shareholder Gennadiy Timchenko
• SMP Bank director Boris Rotenberg
• Igor Rotenberg, who chairs the board of National Telematic Systems

When asked about this, the prime minister's spokesman said there were 100 individuals and entities.
While the prime minister specified individuals, also adding companies doubles the number, but still does not get to 100.
But UK officials told BBC News that the figure also includes the major subsidiaries of the companies. They said, for example, the sanctioned company Rostec has about 60 subsidiaries, all of which could count towards the number sanctioned.
When it was suggested to Security Minister Damian Hinds on BBC Breakfast on Thursday that only eight Russian oligarchs had become the target of new sanctions, he responded: "what you say is in the right area, but there are going to be more".
We also asked about the 275 figure Mr Johnson mentioned but the government did not provide the details.
Of all the people on the list (not just those sanctioned in the last week), we counted 195 who had been sanctioned as a result of measures linked to Russia.
These date back to events such as the Salisbury poisonings, when a former Russian spy and his daughter were targeted by Russian agents.

List promised​

On Wednesday, Mr Johnson said the government would publish a list of all those with assets related to the Kremlin but failed to say when.
Sanctions he has announced so far include:

• assets of all major Russian banks will be frozen and excluded from the UK financial system
• President Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov have had their assets frozen
• Russian companies and the state will be prevented from raising finance or borrowing money on UK markets
• Aeroflot will be banned from landing in the UK
• a suspension of dual-use export licences to cover components for military purposes
• a stop to exports of high-tech items and oil refinery equipment
• a limit on deposits Russians can make in UK bank accounts

 

[GrandOldTeam]

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

This news shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, but I guess some will try to defend it:



Also here is your daily reminder we’ve still not reversed the defence cuts

Meanwhile in France...

France seizes superyacht owned by sanctioned Russian oligarch

France has seized a yacht owned by Russian oligarch Igor Sechin, the French finance ministry said in a statement on Thursday.

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