Current Affairs Ukraine

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Blue Roo said:
And there it is.
Why do you think Russia is at war?
When NATO is in Ukraine, its either nuclear war or Russia will be gone.
Why do people think the West has a right to take over the world and its resources for its own means and gains.
You might be warm in your bed bc of Ukraine gas has been taken by NATO but we'll have rendered a poor region of the world much much poorer still. But sure that's what the West has done for many centuries to acquire the wealth and resources it has now.
But we are better than them, right?
Are we back at the Crusades.
Has anyone thought through the consequences of when Eastern Russia and Western US are bridged through NATO. One endless NATO across the world.
When the West has run out of dissent from Russia and China, internally the same people, the same human nature that got us there will turn on the dissent of its own 'people'.
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Ukraine's gas belongs to Ukraine and they can sell it to who they please.
 
Kev The Rat said:
interesting comments from the Kherson Mayor, ties in with my thought that the Russians are going to try for a divide and rule, military state.

Kherson mayor appears to suggest city has fallen​

The mayor of Kherson has appeared to suggest that the southern Ukrainian city has fallen to Russian forces.
In a message posted to Facebook on Wednesday, Igor Kolykhaev wrote that "there were armed visitors in the city council today" and that he had told the troops "we don't have Ukrainian Armed Forces in the city, only civilians and people who want to LIVE here!".
Kolykhaev wrote that Moscow's forces have imposed a curfew from 20:00 to 06:00 local time (22:00 - 08:00 GMT), and said cars with food, medicines and some other supplies will be allowed to enter the city.
He added that cars within the city must drive at "minimum" speed and pedestrians are banned from moving in groups of more than two people.
"So far this is how it is. Ukrainian flag above us. And to keep it the same, these requirements must be met. I have nothing else to offer yet", Kolykhaev said.
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I should imagine you were able to read the Mayor's statement before he even "wrote" it.

His city has just been seized by force, by an invading army. I'm sure that the Russian CO in situ said "Yeah, say what you like Igor. I'm off to the khazi."
 
Lobster Johnson said:
Ukraine's gas belongs to Ukraine and they can sell it to who they please.
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That's sounds like communism to me.
The most likely outcome of what your saying is the benefits of that gas will go to multinational corps, like in so many other countries.
In Australia the Rudd Labour govt tried to get more from the mining countries - Rudd was ousted not long after. Australian politics has been in disarray since and the ability of politicians to make these types of decisions has rendered null and void. Turnbill, Liberal, went there on the environment and got ousted as well.
 
Blue Roo said:
That's sounds like communism to me.
The most likely outcome of what your saying is the benefits of that gas will go to multinational corps, like in so many other countries.
In Australia the Rudd Labour govt tried to get more from the mining countries - Rudd was ousted in the end. Australian politics has been in disarray since and the ability of politicians to make these types of decisions has rendered null and void. Turville, Liberal, went there on the environment and got ousted as well.
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Well yes, you don't tend to get many small artisan gas producers.
 
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