The all new David Moyes poll (for Davek)

[Gilbert..]

Probably the history with him.

There were enough who were glad he went or at least thought it was time for a change first time round.

He's generating much the same complaints as last time out, we've more money, and folk are saying they've been patient long enough. I get it, I think Moyes needs a few seasons to do his best work, but we've all lived that before. Some really don't want to.

Its mad how hes still dividing opinions lol.
Different forum/site 20 years later.
Its like nothings changed.

 

[nevsonlymate]

David Moyes has a perfect opportunity to secure a new contract for himself by picking teams that are focused on winning the next 3 games and hopefully qualifying for Europe if other results are kind to us.

The end of season run-in should be about going for glory(albeit minor European qualification) and confidence must be high after the rousing second half on Monday night.

If he reverts to Gueye and McNeill in the starting 11 because we are away from home and we play like we did at West Ham then he has signed his own P45 IMO.

I went Monday thinking the result for us was a win win, lose and it was probably expected , win and we put a big dent in them winning the league hoped that we would have a go from the off but that first half to me was Typical Moyes everyone behind the ball standing and waiting i was bored to death, second half at least had a go but why do we seem to always have a game of 2 halves we just cant seem to start on the front foot was it the game plan all along or was it the players scared to have a go and showing to much respect

 

[Bluepablo]

Moyes rocked up last season, with us on 17 points from 19th games.

18th went down on 25 points.

So Moyes needed 8 points from 57 available, 19 games to see us safe. Praise the lord he managed it. Phew.

He got an uplift from multi millionaires after nuts and bolts, hard yaaaaards, do the basics Sean Dyche.

He did well, last season. Immediate uplift, and no threat of relegation at all given the bottom 3 were so poor give the breathing room.

This season? Well he's got progressively worse and has a lower points per game than Allardyce.

Why didn't we keep Allardyce?

Moyes has spent a club record amount - no point deduction chaos, no ownership chaos, and he has us level on points with Dyche's only full season with 3 games to go.

The thing is though - when your comparing to Sean Dyche, or Sam Allardyce - you've already lost.

The regression is a worry as we are getting worse rather than improving. 3 games could change it but if the current trend continues we will be bottom half again next season.

Moyes
24/25 H2 19 games 31 points ppg 1.63
25/26 H1 19 games 28 points ppg 1.47
25/26 H2 16 games 20 points ppg 1.25

 

[Drico]

The regression is a worry as we are getting worse rather than improving. 3 games could change it but if the current trend continues we will be bottom half again next season.

Moyes
24/25 H2 19 games 31 points ppg 1.63
25/26 H1 19 games 28 points ppg 1.47
25/26 H2 16 games 20 points ppg 1.25

That's more alarming than I thought.

We all accepted he did a sterling job when he came in. Had us safe quickly and had us attacking the likes of United at home (albeit blowing a two-goal lead). This season has been more of a grind, but the trend is only going one way - and this after spending 120m last summer. Objectively, we have to expect the trend to be going in the other direction.

 

[JLW]

Winning a European trophy?
Getting into the top 4?
Building a team that's consistently top 6?

Peak Moyes most definitely isn't 10th

Winning a European trophy? Utter tripe of a competition
Getting into the top 4? Once in over 20 years
Building a team that's consistently top 6? We qualified for Europe 4 times in his 11 years

Proper domestic trophies 0

 

[toffeeblue9]

Winning a European trophy? Utter tripe of a competition
Getting into the top 4? Once in over 20 years
Building a team that's consistently top 6? We qualified for Europe 4 times in his 11 years

Proper domestic trophies 0

Fair counters, but we are still very blatantly not at "peak Moyes" are we?

 

[siddharth]

This thread’s become a lot more interesting than the actual Moyes thread, if I’m honest. I like Moyes. Always will. What he’s done for this club shouldn’t be forgotten, and personally I’d love to see a long-term association between him and Everton but maybe not necessarily as a manager. If anything, the poll’s asking the wrong question. Maybe it should be: "What do we actually want Everton to become?" And if we’re being honest, maybe throw a bit of proper match-going rhetoric into the mix while we’re at it.

I support Everton in a place where all my mates are either Chelsea, United, or RS. I genuinely don’t know another Evertonian for miles. Not one. So when people start drawing lines between “proper fans” and everyone else, I can’t help but wonder what exactly we’re protecting. As we hopefully grow bigger, I hope we get more fans who can’t make every match. More fans who can’t jump on a plane and travel 2,000 miles just to prove they love the same club. More fans who’ll stay up at ridiculous hours and one day maybe even compete for your tickets when things finally 'progress'. Cases we start seeing generational toffees, give up their match-day seats for people who simply pay more.

Because what does it really matter who gets through the turnstiles and who doesn’t? We all carry the same frustrations. I just want Everton to be competitive. I want a club big enough to build communities like us all over the world. I want more nights worth celebrating, more European draws, more midweek fixtures that have me waking up at some god-forsaken hour because it actually matters.

 

[Nymzee]

So Moyes needed 8 points from 57 available, 19 games to see us safe. Praise the lord he managed it. Phew.

I don't remember Moyes joining in January with everyone knowing he would only need 8 more points.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I went Monday thinking the result for us was a win win, lose and it was probably expected , win and we put a big dent in them winning the league hoped that we would have a go from the off but that first half to me was Typical Moyes everyone behind the ball standing and waiting i was bored to death, second half at least had a go but why do we seem to always have a game of 2 halves we just cant seem to start on the front foot was it the game plan all along or was it the players scared to have a go and showing to much respect

If its a pattern it's a coaching issue, if it's a now and again trait then that would be a players issue

 

[kiss the crest]

Looks like Iraola is close to joining Palace

 

[windymiller]

all over twitter that iraola is close to joining crystal palace. ridiculous if he is willing to go there and we didnt even try for him

That can't be true. Surely he has better options than that? He might as well stay at Bournemouth is that's the alternative.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Its mad how hes still dividing opinions lol.
Different forum/site 20 years later.
Its like nothings changed.

Yeah, totally. Back then it was on Toffeeweb for me, but the debates are all the same.

 

[davek]

Poll is looking a bit more interesting now @davek

Nice try at engagement.

But the poll is skewed and would be several percentage points toward a no vote if you had left my username off the thread title.

 

[windymiller]

More than Benitez?!

I don't like Moyes at all but he's definitely not more divisive than Benitez and Dyche. It was white hot open warfare in here during both of their reigns.

 

[Drico]

Nice try at engagement.

But the poll is skewed and would be several percentage points toward a no vote if you had left my username off the thread title.

Dunno about that, Dave. You underestimate yourself. I voted "no" purely out of solidarity with you.