Roberto Vs Ronald

[orly]

The good people of GOT have spoken. @Robertor was better than Koeman.

Fixed

 

[hktoffee]

The good people of GOT have spoken. Roberto was better than Koeman.

Results spoke for themselves Moomin. Point per match and winning rate you can never rewritten them. People can have different opinions that’s absolutely fine. I perfer 9 games in agony under RK rather than 2 full seasons in agony under RM. I guess that is the difference.

 

[mkrudden]

we will get on in this thread MK, but just you wait for the Rooney vs Kone thread when we boot the boozing happy meal guzzler out in the summer

You're truly a fave of mine.
Wayne Rooney or no Wayne Rooney.

 

[bicycleheader]

You're truly a fave of mine.
Wayne Rooney or no Wayne Rooney.

no Wayne Rooney please. thanks!

 

[Boss_Blue]

Even now the cultists seek to defend their beloved, they're both crap lads! Nobody other turn a few deluded fools will ever look back fondly on either of them.

Nobody is arguing against that mate - just who was the crappest overall.

 

[Moomin]

Results spoke for themselves Moomin. Point per match and winning rate you can never rewritten them. People can have different opinions that’s absolutely fine. I perfer 9 games in agony under RK rather than 2 full seasons in agony under RM. I guess that is the difference.

He done better in Europe and the cups as well, Martinez was a god compared to Koeman.

 

[bicycleheader]

Nobody is arguing against that mate - just who was the crappest overall.

the correct term is more betterer

you can also use less worserer

 

[Adam-GOTTV]

Koeman really has done Martinez a favour in the history of Everton managers league. I've noticed that we've started to romanticise his (Berto's) time with us a little bit, and that first season was fantastic. Given just how bad things went under Koeman, I think it's taken away from just how bad things got under Martinez. Let's not forget, most of us actually Martinez, too.

Interestingly, when I spoke to @Jim Keoghan the other day he said Martinez had said to him that with another season and a decent transfer window he felt that Everton would have gone forward, not sure I'd agree like.

 

[Blue 1]

I really just want to forget about the pair of them.

At least some of Martinez' reign was enjoyable. I'll give him that. Could've swung for him by the end, mind.

 

[mkrudden]

Koeman really has done Martinez a favour in the history of Everton managers league. I've noticed that we've started to romanticise his (Berto's) time with us a little bit, and that first season was fantastic. Given just how bad things went under Koeman, I think it's taken away from just how bad things got under Martinez. Let's not forget, most of us actually Martinez, too.

Interestingly, when I spoke to @Jim Keoghan the other day he said Martinez had said to him that with another season and a decent transfer window he felt that Everton would have gone forward, not sure I'd agree like.

Or alternatively under Koeman, now are in the relegation zone, has proven that things weren't as bad under Martinez as we thought?

 

[hktoffee]

He done better in Europe and the cups as well, Martinez was a god compared to Koeman.

Which I and some others do not agree with. And you believe Martinez was a god compared to Koeman which is absolutely fine. I remembered how dreadful RM was in the league rather than got knocking out in the later stage in the cups. League for me is the bread and butter.

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

I would love to have seen what Roberto could have done with that £200M!!!


It’s going to cost a fortune to rebuild now & to get rid of Sigurdsson, Williams, Klaasen.

 

[tremont]

Great points.

I've often reminded people that we finished 5th in a season where Spurs and United were that BAD they both sacked their managers.

I didn't even mention that the likes of Baines and Jagielka were two years younger, and Coleman didn't have a broken leg. On the other hand - he did have the foresight to sign Alcaraz as cover haha.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Nobody is arguing against that mate - just who was the crappest overall.

I get that mate but it's like having diarrhoea and sitting down to work out which visit to the toilet was better then the others! None of them are worth metioning in a positive light and best not talked about at all!

 

[Rook]

Too young to remember the glory days that first season under Bobby was the best I have seen us play

The team retained the organisation from Moyes but the shackles had been removed

A couple things happened. The only clubs that played that kind of footie before Martinez came in were Wigan and Swansea (Arsenal too? but Wenger's system seems a bit different) and no one really paid much attn to them. Suddenly both Martinez and Rodgers were on clubs were a boatload of talent and it caught the prem off guard.

We had actually started to play possession footie under Moyes in his final years and there were plenty of matches were we have 60-65% possession but no one to put the ball in the back of the net, if Jelavic wasn't fools gold we would have been 3rd-4th Moyes his final year.

Martinez was definitely more attack minded but it was more Rom removing the shackles than anything (and for the RS that year, Ratface) and bringing him in was the best thing he did. A 20+ goal scorer can drag you 4-5 places up in the table and cover up a ton of cracks. I don't think it was a considence that Moyes's best team had Yakubu scoring for fun.