Roberto Vs Ronald

[Boss_Blue]

Koeman really has done Martinez a favour in the history of Everton managers league. I've noticed that we've started to romanticise his (Berto's) time with us a little bit, and that first season was fantastic. Given just how bad things went under Koeman, I think it's taken away from just how bad things got under Martinez. Let's not forget, most of us actually Martinez, too.

Interestingly, when I spoke to @Jim Keoghan the other day he said Martinez had said to him that with another season and a decent transfer window he felt that Everton would have gone forward, not sure I'd agree like.

Martinez had to go just as Koeman had to go.

Hopefully the next incumbent will get more than one decent season out of the players.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Straight away Osman rescued him home and away Vs Villa that season, we got spanked in the 1st half on both occasions.

Baines 2 free kicks in one game, Coleman wonder goal and Barkley free kick v Swansea, Coleman mis hit v Cardiff last minute. Games we played rubbish in and got out with max points. I called out that season that the football often hadn’t been great (Sunderland away another example) but we’d got through by direct free kicks, wonder goals, some good luck too, and at times decent subs and variation in fairness. He had the opportunity to build on it but accentuated the problems and stubbornlynignored the things that brought us success.

 

[Boss_Blue]

I get that mate but it's like having diarrhoea and sitting down to work out which visit to the toilet was better then the others! None of them are worth metioning in a positive light and best not talked about at all!

Apart from Martinez first season though.

 

[Lowste]

Is that like that absolute nothing Bournemouth game when he played this team.
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When all the talk was he should've showed us some of the youth players, he gave them a token 5 minutes at the end.

A few weeks later, Unsworth did this.



So why, if Martinez had so much faith in youth, did he never use them? Other than bringing through Barkley.

I disagree we seen many youngsters given a chance. The game you mention i think he was right not to play the youth, the atmosphere was toxic at the time and wouldn't of been fair to expose them to it.

 

[Boss_Blue]

@bicycleheader this is a great thread.

Flashbacks to 2015/2016.

 

[hktoffee]

Koeman really has done Martinez a favour in the history of Everton managers league. I've noticed that we've started to romanticise his (Berto's) time with us a little bit, and that first season was fantastic. Given just how bad things went under Koeman, I think it's taken away from just how bad things got under Martinez. Let's not forget, most of us actually Martinez, too.

Interestingly, when I spoke to @Jim Keoghan the other day he said Martinez had said to him that with another season and a decent transfer window he felt that Everton would have gone forward, not sure I'd agree like.

It would never happen because Martinez cannot organise a defence and it occurs to me he does not give a damn about it. It‘s pretty much like asking Koeman to stop playing 3 no.10s.

 

[Moomin]

It would never happen because Martinez cannot organise a defence and it occurs to me he does not give a damn about it. It‘s pretty much like asking Koeman to stop playing 3 no.10s.

Let it go, he has gone.

 

[hktoffee]

Let it go, he has gone.

Monitor Moomin I was merely responding to another poster and quoting his post. Hope you understand. #Thanks.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Koeman.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Moomin monitor

I like that - going to start calling you it @Moomin

 

[ianefc]

The good people of GOT have spoken. Roberto was better than Koeman.

Interesting, if this poll counts then so does this (also voted by the good people of GOT)

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/mike-walker-v-roberto-martinez.92495/

Mike Walker better than Koeman and Martinez.

 

[bicycleheader]

Interesting, if this poll counts then so does this (also voted by the good people of GOT)

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/mike-walker-v-roberto-martinez.92495/

Mike Walker better than Koeman and Martinez.

I think we would all have to be honest and say there's no way Walker was better than either of them. There's not a single positive to remember.

 

[ianefc]

Baines 2 free kicks in one game, Coleman wonder goal and Barkley free kick v Swansea, Coleman mis hit v Cardiff last minute. Games we played rubbish in and got out with max points. I called out that season that the football often hadn’t been great (Sunderland away another example) but we’d got through by direct free kicks, wonder goals, some good luck too, and at times decent subs and variation in fairness. He had the opportunity to build on it but accentuated the problems and stubbornlynignored the things that brought us success.

All very well remembered. It's a shame forgetfulness is swarming the forum. Or is it revisionism?

 

[Moomin]

I like that - going to start calling you it @Moomin

I'm kissing a photo of Ross.

Our only hope to save us.

 

[ianefc]

Interesting, if this poll counts then so does this (also voted by the good people of GOT)

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/mike-walker-v-roberto-martinez.92495/

Mike Walker better than Koeman and Martinez.

Signed Duncan Ferguson? Put together the squad that won our last Cup.