Roberto Vs Ronald

[Boss_Blue]

When I lived in the UK some locals did say the same thing, in our face. I guess this is a way to laugh at the language we speak is it Boss Blue?

No mate it's the lyrics from a song adapted to include the word Ramadan.

Actually the last part should say ding dong and not ping pong so I'm guessing it was auto corrected.

You stay offended though mate as like the pope, I forgive you.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Getting spicy in here now.

Allez, allez, allez oooohh...

 

[Khalekan]

Martinez had the benefit of Lukaku the whole time so for that reason I will go for Koeman. However, if Koeman was given a full season this time, I genuinely think he may have taken us down. Very hard decisions.

Also in fairness to Martinez he actually persuaded Lukaku to come and brought in Deulofeu and McCarthy etc who were instrumental in that first season, but the 2nd seasons were absolutely awful.

Think both overall were poor.

Deulofeu was not here in the second season.

I’m just sayin’

More’s the pity.

It is an even bigger pity he ain’t here now that we might see some Cavalier football again after sixteen months of Ronald’s Roundheads.

 

[Khalekan]

I think Koeman eclipsed all this this season.

In Spades.

 

[tremont]

I think Koeman eclipsed all this this season.

To be honest, I shouldn't have included the second 0-4 at Anfield - He'd already lost the dressing room by then. It was for this reason that I didn't include Leicester and Sunderland away.

I agree that the performances this season are amongst the worst I have ever seen, but you could tell that there was something seriously wrong. The games I have listed above, apart from the second 0-4 are at Anfield, were all in "okay" times. That is the difference for me - we were still capable of playing that badly under Martinez, even when things were going well(ish).

 

[Boss_Blue]

No mate it'sFFsFFS the lyrics from a song adapted to include the word Ramadan.

Actually the last part should say ding dong and not ping pong so I'm guessing it was auto corrected.

You stay offended though mate as like the pope, I forgive you.

FFS it's actually bing bang.

I need to brush up on my nonsensical song knowledge.

 

[hktoffee]

Definitely, but it still takes nothing away from the battering we gave Newcastle and the method we used to do so: quick, decisive, possession-based footy.

True and it lasted for one season while he can’t do that in his other 4/5 seasons in the PL. I don’t think anyone would argue his first season was fantastic. It was much better than expected but it was the way how it ended which was debatable as to whether he is a better manager than our previous one. The toleration on poor results for RM was much longer than RK. 9 PL games 2 months and Koeman got the sack (and I think he deserved it).

 

[Michaelcoyb]

Same poo different stink

 

[hktoffee]

No mate it's the lyrics from a song adapted to include the word Ramadan.

Actually the last part should say ding dong and not ping pong so I'm guessing it was auto corrected.

You stay offended though mate as like the pope, I forgive you.

Whatever, I guess winding up means high for you. Honestly I don’t give a damn. The Good, the bad and the ugly. It’s everywhere.

 

[Seanjd]

Martinez had the benefit of Lukaku the whole time so for that reason I will go for Koeman. However, if Koeman was given a full season this time, I genuinely think he may have taken us down. Very hard decisions.

Also in fairness to Martinez he actually persuaded Lukaku to come and brought in Deulofeu and McCarthy etc who were instrumental in that first season, but the 2nd seasons were absolutely awful.

Think both overall were poor.

Martinez had the benefit of a player he had the foresight to sign in truth, though. That remains an incredible piece of business.

 

[TraffordBlue]

Deulofeu was not here in the second season.

I’m just sayin’

More’s the pity.

It is an even bigger pity he ain’t here now that we might see some Cavalier football again after sixteen months of Ronald’s Roundheads.

Deulofeu was one that I think Koeman could have been a bit more patient with. Like Barkley, I don't think Deulofeu progressed how we had hoped but he certainly had talent and I don't think he was given a fair chance by Koeman.

Don't like to just have a go at an easy target in Klaassen but some of Koeman's signings are even more baffling when you put them up against players he had no time for like Deulofeu and Barkley. Even if Klaasssen had hit the ground running, he still has major flaws in his game. Lack of pace, lack of strength, doesn't get to 50/50s he should, doesn't shoot outside the box etc, can't play a 30 yard crossfield ball. Yet Koeman was willing to allow him time to improve but just seemed ruthless with not allowing Deulofeu and Barkley to work on their mistakes.

Having said that, I think Martinez indulged Barkley too much. There needed to be the right balance and don't think either of the managers found it.

 

[Lowste]

Name some.

It is more about what he created and his vision. As opposed to his incumbent spending vast amounts of money for quick fixes...surely even you can see RM had a vision for future generations

 

[Boss_Blue]

Whatever, I guess winding up means high for you. Honestly I don’t give a damn. The Good, the bad and the ugly. It’s everywhere.

 

[toffeejack]

Martinez should have lasted the same amount of time as Ronald.

They both failed

The end

you think he should have lasted just 9 games after he got us our record prem points total and when we were bossing it in Europe?

 

[Blue Horseshoe]

Martinez
72 reasons
Christmas video
Bought Lukaku

Koeman
red Christmas tree decos
Sold Lukaku - without getting a replacement...If it was his fault at all, he's getting the blame.

Also, with RM I received a nice birthday video greeting, whereas Koeman just sent a discount for the shop