Roberto Vs Ronald

[TheBigIguana]

At least we were the entertainers under Bobby

 

[ilikecheese]

Martinez. At least he won games in Europe in his second season. Ronnie was a much bigger fail...hands down. Spent a kings ransom to get us our worst start in 12 years and completely fail in Europe.

 

[Rook]

Martinez. Because we were awesome his 1st year.

Both had to go though. Martinez wouldn't change to the personel we had and the players stopped playing for him. Ron had to go because he had no idea what the hell to do with the players he wanted.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Where do these two rank all time? Top 20?

 

[Khalekan]

Where do these two rank all time? Top 20?

Have we had 20 managers?

Let me try and list them.

Koeman, Roberto, Moyes, Walter, Howard (3), Big Joe, Walker, Colin, Gordon, Billy Bingham, Harry, Johnny Carey, Theo Kelly.

That is 13 I can think off.

 

[ilikecheese]

Have we had 20 managers?

Let me try and list them.

Koeman, Roberto, Moyes, Walter, Howard (3), Big Joe, Walker, Colin, Gordon, Billy Bingham, Harry, Johnny Carey, Theo Kelly.

That is 13 I can think off.

Rhino is undefeated as Everton manager.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Have we had 20 managers?

Let me try and list them.

Koeman, Roberto, Moyes, Walter, Howard (3), Big Joe, Walker, Colin, Gordon, Billy Bingham, Harry, Johnny Carey, Theo Kelly.

That is 13 I can think off.

Rough counted 28, might have counted Kendall more than once.

 

[Khalekan]

Rhino is undefeated as Everton manager.

Indeed.

But I wasn’t including caretakers.

Loads of those.....Rhino, Dave Watson, Jimmy Gabriel, Steve Burtenshaw among them.

 

[Khalekan]

Rough counted 28, might have counted Kendall more than once.

Did you include caretakers?

I left them out..

And strictly speaking, should we count Howard as three because they are three different managerial appointments and reigns?

 

[Huyton Layne]

Did you include caretakers?

I left them out..

And strictly speaking, should we count Howard as three because they are three different managerial appointments and reigns?

I guess so yeah. Can’t really put someone above HK1 because of HK3

 

[Khalekan]

I guess so yeah. Can’t really put someone above HK1 because of HK3

Indeed.

HK3 needs to stand on its own merit.....or lack thereoff


Here is my top ten anyway.

1. HK 1

2. Harry

3. Gordon Lee

4. Big Joe

5. Moyes

6. Roberto

7. Johnny Carey

8. Colin Harvey

9. Billy Bingham

10. Cliff Britton

 

[ilikecheese]

Indeed.

HK3 needs to stand on its own merit.....or lack thereoff


Here is my top ten anyway.

1. HK 1

2. Harry

3. Gordon Lee

4. Big Joe

5. Moyes

6. Roberto

7. Johnny Carey

8. Colin Harvey

9. Billy Bingham

10. Cliff Britton

Thomas H. McIntosh found Dixie and won a few pots. Sure I had to look it up

Referred to as 'Secretary Manager' on wiki...not even sure what that means.

 

[ilikecheese]

One other thing. Roberto's speech at the pit on the 25th anniversary of Hillsborough was a huge point of pride for me. It was a moving and genuine speech. Choked me up and as you all know I don't even have actual Liverpool ties. I was so proud of our manager that day.

 

[ilikecheese]

I could be a big 'ol softie though.

 

[jonnyboy316]

Too young to remember the glory days that first season under Bobby was the best I have seen us play

The team retained the organisation from Moyes but the shackles had been removed