Moyes says Europe is ON

[Jamo Martinez]

I would expect the barcodes to move on as well. Add a player or two for Europe.

'IF' they can keep both of their strikers on form yes, but I cant see both doing the business again. They have been fantastic this season but I dont expect them to do the same next year, might be wrong. Hope im not.

I think Newcastle will struggle with playing in Europe next season. Just look at the likes of Athletic Bilbao. Fantastic season but advancing in Europe (and the Spanish Cup) has taken it's toll on their league form due to a lack of squad depth.

 

[McBain]

Cheers Hazza,

And to everyone... Remember, I'm a million miles away from the bright lights of Goodison, so I really have no idea whats going down on the streets and in the back rooms.

I've loved this club, a club I've never been to see at home, and only ever witnessed them in the flesh wearing Pink FFS, for all my life. You local folks have something I could only ever dream about, so cherish it, love her like your child; and forgive her sins, we're only as good as the people who make her tick. Fans and staff alike, we expats sit and comment from afar, hoping to understand, hoping to share in her glory, and giving her a bit of a cuddle in defeat.

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

Without Moyes we would be relegated within 2 seasons tops

Imagine the players who would want away if Moyes wasent there, its HIS team which he built from top 2 bottom

thats completely fabricated and has no basis in facts whatsoever. Who is to say another manager cannot come in and do just as good if not better job. This Everton are lucky to have moyes mentality drives me insane. David Moyes is lucky to be managing Everton with a chairman that sucks his you know what. Some of the starts to a season Moyes has had recently have seen mangers fired at other clubs. Luckily he gets stuck by and manages to turn it around(a lesson for other chairmen maybe) but he is not the only manager in the world that is fit to manage Everton.

 

[davek]

So.... what your saying is... that by saying he has ambition is negated by the fact that he's still with us?

Your saying at the heart of David Moyes is a man who is clearly covering up for inept board, and setting about destroying his own reputation and credibility by NOT leaving the Club he obviously doesn't love...

ALL JUST BECAUSE HE GETS PAID????

...Seriously are YOU FOR REAL??

Davek... buddy .... you need some help man.

No, I'm not saying that at all - something you'd have understood if you'd have read what I put rather than what you wanted to see.

I'm saying he has no ambition if he's content to sit down and plan with a board who give him nothing rather than demanding at least the hand he had to play when he entered Everton as manager, which was to generate cash and then spend it.

He doesn't even have that now: we all know for fact (because the CEO has told us on umpteen occasions lately) that Moyes has to find £5M each season for the owners to pay down debt interest by selling players before he can operate with the remainder of what's brought in in that respect. He endorses that. So how can he say he's ambitious when he's party to his own squad's deconstruction (a *business plan* that was made plain to him post 2009 FA Cup Final, and something he looked square in the face, whinged a bit but then accepted)?

Call it reality if you wish...operating with what's actual rather than what he wishes was the case. Fine. Fair enough. But it can NEVER be called *ambition*. He cant push that line, not one bit as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Neiler]

No, I'm not saying that at all - something you'd have understood if you'd have read what I put rather than what you wanted to see.

I'm saying he has no ambition if he's content to sit down and plan with a board who give him nothing rather than demanding at least the hand he had to play when he entered Everton as manager, which was to generate cash and then spend it.

He doesn't even have that now: we all know for fact (because the CEO has told us on umpteen occasions lately) that Moyes has to find £5M each season for the owners to pay down debt interest by selling players before he can operate with the remainder of what's brought in in that respect. He endorses that. So how can he say he's ambitious when he's party to his own squad's deconstruction (a *business plan* that was made plain to him post 2009 FA Cup Final, and something he looked square in the face, whinged a bit but then accepted)?

Call it reality if you wish...operating with what's actual rather than what he wishes was the case. Fine. Fair enough. But it can NEVER be called *ambition*. He cant push that line, not one bit as far as I'm concerned.

*Please note actual instances and dates referenced in this post are the posters opinions of hypothetical scenarios/situations and may actually have no basis of accuracey or actual true events.

 

[Pblueman]

Davek mate he could stamp his feet all he wants at the board, simple fact of the matter is there is no money so why bother? the easy option would be to leave. there are other clubs with money that would have him.

 

[Matt Damon]

*Please note actual instances and dates referenced in this post are the posters opinions of a hypothetical scenarios/situations and may actually have no basis of accuracey to actual true events.

Don't forget Neiler...

DAVEK held RANDY LERNER up as the modicum of great ownership for several years....

Therefore take what he says in the context of that.


At least we're not Villa

 

[Christiffa25]

No, I'm not saying that at all - something
you'd have understood if you'd have read what I put rather than what you wanted to see.

I'm saying he has no ambition if he's content to sit down and plan with a board who give him nothing rather than demanding at least the hand he had to play when he entered Everton as manager, which was to generate cash and then spend it.

He doesn't even have that now: we all know for fact (because the CEO has told us on umpteen occasions lately) that Moyes has to find £5M each season for the owners to pay down debt interest by selling players before he can operate with the remainder of what's brought in in that respect. He endorses that. So how can he say he's ambitious when he's party to his own squad's deconstruction (a *business plan* that was made plain to him post 2009 FA Cup Final, and something he looked square in the face, whinged a bit but then accepted)?

Call it reality if you wish...operating with what's actual rather than what he wishes was the case. Fine. Fair enough. But it can NEVER be called *ambition*. He cant push that line, not one bit as far as I'm concerned.

Im sure your a top fella davek..
Im sure your friends and family think very highly of you but....

Your views on everton and moyes and.. Most things football related are plain clueless!!

Bless yer!

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

Im sure your a top fella davek..
Im sure your friends and family think very highly of you but....

Your views on everton and moyes and.. Most things football related are plain clueless!!

Bless yer!

i could say the same about you mate to be honest

 

[manxtoffee]

No, I'm not saying that at all - something you'd have understood if you'd have read what I put rather than what you wanted to see.

I'm saying he has no ambition if he's content to sit down and plan with a board who give him nothing rather than demanding at least the hand he had to play when he entered Everton as manager, which was to generate cash and then spend it.

He doesn't even have that now: we all know for fact (because the CEO has told us on umpteen occasions lately) that Moyes has to find £5M each season for the owners to pay down debt interest by selling players before he can operate with the remainder of what's brought in in that respect. He endorses that. So how can he say he's ambitious when he's party to his own squad's deconstruction (a *business plan* that was made plain to him post 2009 FA Cup Final, and something he looked square in the face, whinged a bit but then accepted)?

Call it reality if you wish...operating with what's actual rather than what he wishes was the case. Fine. Fair enough. But it can NEVER be called *ambition*. He cant push that line, not one bit as far as I'm concerned.

It could be worse Dave.. At least we're not Arsenal!

 

[McBain]

No, I'm not saying that at all - something you'd have understood if you'd have read what I put rather than what you wanted to see.

I'm saying he has no ambition if he's content to sit down and plan with a board who give him nothing rather than demanding at least the hand he had to play when he entered Everton as manager, which was to generate cash and then spend it.

He doesn't even have that now: we all know for fact (because the CEO has told us on umpteen occasions lately) that Moyes has to find £5M each season for the owners to pay down debt interest by selling players before he can operate with the remainder of what's brought in in that respect. He endorses that. So how can he say he's ambitious when he's party to his own squad's deconstruction (a *business plan* that was made plain to him post 2009 FA Cup Final, and something he looked square in the face, whinged a bit but then accepted)?

Call it reality if you wish...operating with what's actual rather than what he wishes was the case. Fine. Fair enough. But it can NEVER be called *ambition*. He cant push that line, not one bit as far as I'm concerned.

Okay, I do see where you're coming from.

I still believe though, that Moyes knows what he's doing.

I believe it's one of two things.

1. He really does believe that we will get investment, and if he does leave, he will kick himself for laying all the ground work, and letting someone else come in and get the cash. He loves the Club, and has no plans to Manage elsewhere.

2. He believes by staying on he has a much better chance at getting the Man U gig when Fergie gives it up. He's roundly endorsed by all, and would seriously jeopordise this if he were to take another job. Think about it. Why leave and tread water somewhere else when he's got the freedom of the Club here?

What'cha think Davey?

 

[mezzrow]

Cheers Hazza,

And to everyone... Remember, I'm a million miles away from the bright lights of Goodison, so I really have no idea whats going down on the streets and in the back rooms.

I've loved this club, a club I've never been to see at home, and only ever witnessed them in the flesh wearing Pink FFS, for all my life. You local folks have something I could only ever dream about, so cherish it, love her like your child; and forgive her sins, we're only as good as the people who make her tick. Fans and staff alike, we expats sit and comment from afar, hoping to understand, hoping to share in her glory, and giving her a bit of a cuddle in defeat.

This. Well put.

 

[davek]

Okay, I do see where you're coming from.

I still believe though, that Moyes knows what he's doing.

I believe it's one of two things.

1. He really does believe that we will get investment, and if he does leave, he will kick himself for laying all the ground work, and letting someone else come in and get the cash. He loves the Club, and has no plans to Manage elsewhere.

2. He believes by staying on he has a much better chance at getting the Man U gig when Fergie gives it up. He's roundly endorsed by all, and would seriously jeopordise this if he were to take another job. Think about it. Why leave and tread water somewhere else when he's got the freedom of the Club here?

What'cha think Davey?

Re 1) ...if Moyes thinks investment is round the corner after 12 years of listening to a liar saying he's looking 24/7 for it then more fool him. It's not happening this side of a stadium build and the sale of Kenwright et als shares for a massive profit.

Re 2) The United job - that'll be taken by someone who has a clue in Europe. Managers with zero Euro pedigree need not apply. That's just pure fantasy thinking Moyes would be considered for United.

 

[Goat]

No, I'm not saying that at all - something you'd have understood if you'd have read what I put rather than what you wanted to see.

I'm saying he has no ambition if he's content to sit down and plan with a board who give him nothing rather than demanding at least the hand he had to play when he entered Everton as manager, which was to generate cash and then spend it.

He doesn't even have that now: we all know for fact (because the CEO has told us on umpteen occasions lately) that Moyes has to find £5M each season for the owners to pay down debt interest by selling players before he can operate with the remainder of what's brought in in that respect. He endorses that. So how can he say he's ambitious when he's party to his own squad's deconstruction (a *business plan* that was made plain to him post 2009 FA Cup Final, and something he looked square in the face, whinged a bit but then accepted)?

Call it reality if you wish...operating with what's actual rather than what he wishes was the case. Fine. Fair enough. But it can NEVER be called *ambition*. He cant push that line, not one bit as far as I'm concerned.

Oh come on Dave, in this scenerio Moyes has no choice but to quit then.

Your basically telling him to kiss goodbye to 10 Years work and basically admit defeat.

Surely the fact he hasnt done this shows ambition, as you say hes been told what hes got to work with, but its not him thats changed the goalposts, its that utter parasite thats changed the rules.

2 and a half Years he watched as his squad was torn apart, with not a pot to piss in and the Anti-Moyes beauts call him for pointing it out all the time.

Clearly hes sending a message to that utter weapon in charge.

I maintain that nobody else could do a job as good as Moyes has, for the net spend hes had and I will tell you now, no other Manager would put up with the crap he does either.

People always point to his wage, hes earned that wage, whether people like it or not he really has, its ok saying "He gets paid enough".

If it wasnt for Moyes we would be nothing but a crappy Championship Club, deal with it.

 

[davek]

*Please note actual instances and dates referenced in this post are the posters opinions of hypothetical scenarios/situations and may actually have no basis of accuracey or actual true events.

I dont know what you mean. Are you referring to Elstone's statement about sale of players to make up for lost revenue? It's in the psychophant MBE's interview with him.

You're like one of those bankers who still think it's ok to carry on as usual post 2008. Your pov on Kenwright's odious regime of half truths has been smashed all over the shop and your position on Everton's governance totally discredited.

We've established this. Dont resist it.