The only way that contract will be signed is if we put a low release clause. If we bow to Rom and his agents demands, he is as good as gone. I think Moshiri is going to have to put on his poker face and sit this one out, this is IMHO.
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He's not going to say oh I'm selling him now! really hes probably fuming that Roms agent has led him up the garden path
They also claim a percentage of signing on fees so i have no doubt the new deal will get signed. His in big wonga territory if Roms buy out was triggered in the summer or following summer as well.
Its just Raiola and Lukaku testing the waters but unfortunately for Raiola we are not the weak Everton we once were. Everton are trying to protect their interests as much as possible and if a deal isn't signed in the next few weeks I would be surprised because no player is going to like missing out on an extra 70k a week the longer his contract goes unsigned. A compromise will be reached where there is a min fee release clause this year of around 75 mill for a champions league qualified club or 90 mill for a non-champions league qualified club. Everton should then insist that the clause goes up every window as he continues to improve (not only due to Roms natural progression but also the training we invest into him). If Lukaku doesnt agree to that sort of contract then we will play hardball with him and unless a club reaches a certain valuation (certainly more than 70 million) and Lukaku agrees to waive all of his 'loyalty bonuses and Raiolas fees then he wont move. People like Moshiri don't get rich by being shrinking violets when it comes to negotiation time and I fully expect us to either have a new contract or at least 75 mill in the bank with no agent costs and loyalty bonuses paid.
ALANSTUBBS
Player Valuation: £5m
ALWAYS BET ON BLACK
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Whoa there mate. Read my thread again.
I'm talking about Rom joining the elite clubs here, of which there are probably around 6/7 in world football who could afford his transfer fee. He isn't the complete striker yet and if you think he is then you are fooling yourself. He isn't far off it but he isn't there yet. If Rom went to one of those clubs there would be much more competition for places. He would be substituted in games he wasn't affecting and he would be dropped if he went through a short barren spell which all forwards do. He has facets to his game that he still needs to improve, but there's no guarantee he'll be given the chance to do that at one of the elite clubs. Plus, we all know how important playing is for Rom and I don't know how he would react to spending time on the sidelines.
I also likened Rom, in terms of current ability, to Suarez when he first joined Liverpool. In what world is that a "determination to highlight his weak spots? I think he's very close to being a world class player. I have been watching Everton for over 40 years and during that time I can only name 2 genuine world class players to have played for us, so I don't use that term lightly. I just happen to believe that it would be in Rom's interest to continue his learning process with us rather than an "elite" club. Obviously, we would benefit from that too.
As regards playing with better players is going to help him, yes I agree with you. Movement and guile will create time and space for him. Plus he won't be the sole centre of attention as he is now. I actually see the same thing with Barks in midfield. In the past he has been marked out of the game but now he has other players like Davies and Schneids around him the opposition can't just shut him out and close down our creativity like the have in the past.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Whoa there mate. Read my thread again.
I'm talking about Rom joining the elite clubs here, of which there are probably around 6/7 in world football who could afford his transfer fee. He isn't the complete striker yet and if you think he is then you are fooling yourself. He isn't far off it but he isn't there yet. If Rom went to one of those clubs there would be much more competition for places. He would be substituted in games he wasn't affecting and he would be dropped if he went through a short barren spell which all forwards do. He has facets to his game that he still needs to improve, but there's no guarantee he'll be given the chance to do that at one of the elite clubs. Plus, we all know how important playing is for Rom and I don't know how he would react to spending time on the sidelines.
I also likened Rom, in terms of current ability, to Suarez when he first joined Liverpool. In what world is that a "determination to highlight his weak spots? I think he's very close to being a world class player. I have been watching Everton for over 40 years and during that time I can only name 2 genuine world class players to have played for us, so I don't use that term lightly. I just happen to believe that it would be in Rom's interest to continue his learning process with us rather than an "elite" club. Obviously, we would benefit from that too.
As regards playing with better players is going to help him, yes I agree with you. Movement and guile will create time and space for him. Plus he won't be the sole centre of attention as he is now. I actually see the same thing with Barks in midfield. In the past he has been marked out of the game but now he has other players like Davies and Schneids around him the opposition can't just shut him out and close down our creativity like the have in the past.
Sorry, I wasn't intending to criticise you. I just meant some of our fans in general. They seem to delight in saying that Stones, Lukaku, Mirallas, Fellaini, Baines etc will fall flat on their face when they leave because they're not actually that good. People moan that we don't have a winning mentality, but when we have players who say they want to play at the highest level people say they're getting ideas above their station and they'll soon find out they're rubbish - it's bizarre.Whoa there mate. Read my thread again.
I'm talking about Rom joining the elite clubs here, of which there are probably around 6/7 in world football who could afford his transfer fee. He isn't the complete striker yet and if you think he is then you are fooling yourself. He isn't far off it but he isn't there yet. If Rom went to one of those clubs there would be much more competition for places. He would be substituted in games he wasn't affecting and he would be dropped if he went through a short barren spell which all forwards do. He has facets to his game that he still needs to improve, but there's no guarantee he'll be given the chance to do that at one of the elite clubs. Plus, we all know how important playing is for Rom and I don't know how he would react to spending time on the sidelines.
I also likened Rom, in terms of current ability, to Suarez when he first joined Liverpool. In what world is that a "determination to highlight his weak spots? I think he's very close to being a world class player. I have been watching Everton for over 40 years and during that time I can only name 2 genuine world class players to have played for us, so I don't use that term lightly. I just happen to believe that it would be in Rom's interest to continue his learning process with us rather than an "elite" club. Obviously, we would benefit from that too.
As regards playing with better players is going to help him, yes I agree with you. Movement and guile will create time and space for him. Plus he won't be the sole centre of attention as he is now. I actually see the same thing with Barks in midfield. In the past he has been marked out of the game but now he has other players like Davies and Schneids around him the opposition can't just shut him out and close down our creativity like the have in the past.
I don't think Lukaku is the complete striker, but who is? Not everybody has to be Messi or Suarez, and the likes of Benzema, Higuain, Dzeko, Hernandez etc have done alright for themselves without being that type of player. He isn't just a finisher, he's a good footballer. The assist for Schneiderlin at the weekend was exactly the type of thing people love to say he can't do. He may not win the Ballon d'or, and he may never be seen as one of the real greats of the game, but I just don't see why people think he would be out of place at the highest level when compared to the likes of Cavani, Lavezzi etc.
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For the record, Riola is a fat greasy cancer on football. We probably could sell him for £75m but Riola wants about £15m so tell Romelu that £90m is the price with us getting £75m and Riola getting £15m.
If you want to move so badly then sack Riola and we will let you go fro £70m, taking a £5m loss would be worth it to sucker punch the cancer agent.
If you want to move so badly then sack Riola and we will let you go fro £70m, taking a £5m loss would be worth it to sucker punch the cancer agent.
GwladysPhil
Player Valuation: £35m
Whoa there mate. Read my thread again.
I'm talking about Rom joining the elite clubs here, of which there are probably around 6/7 in world football who could afford his transfer fee. He isn't the complete striker yet and if you think he is then you are fooling yourself. He isn't far off it but he isn't there yet. If Rom went to one of those clubs there would be much more competition for places. He would be substituted in games he wasn't affecting and he would be dropped if he went through a short barren spell which all forwards do. He has facets to his game that he still needs to improve, but there's no guarantee he'll be given the chance to do that at one of the elite clubs. Plus, we all know how important playing is for Rom and I don't know how he would react to spending time on the sidelines.
I also likened Rom, in terms of current ability, to Suarez when he first joined Liverpool. In what world is that a "determination to highlight his weak spots? I think he's very close to being a world class player. I have been watching Everton for over 40 years and during that time I can only name 2 genuine world class players to have played for us, so I don't use that term lightly. I just happen to believe that it would be in Rom's interest to continue his learning process with us rather than an "elite" club. Obviously, we would benefit from that too.
As regards playing with better players is going to help him, yes I agree with you. Movement and guile will create time and space for him. Plus he won't be the sole centre of attention as he is now. I actually see the same thing with Barks in midfield. In the past he has been marked out of the game but now he has other players like Davies and Schneids around him the opposition can't just shut him out and close down our creativity like the have in the past.
Agreed, Suarez wasn't touted as world class in his first season or two with them.
whiteshadow
Player Valuation: £25m
To be fair though, despite it being a runners up league it's a harder competition to win than it ever has been and has far stronger teams in numbers in it than when it was just the champions of each country playing in it.
whiteshadow
Player Valuation: £25m
When players say they want to move to a champions league club don't take it literally. What they're saying is they want to go to a bigger club that has more chance of regularly being in the champions league and will pay them crazy wages.
They just word it like that so they don't come across as disrespectful and money grabbing. He'd go to Man Utd wether they're in the champs league or not.
whiteshadow
Player Valuation: £25m
Spot on. He's more than good enough to play for any top team and if he improves the weaker areas of his game and adds a bit of fight he'll become one of the best strikers in the world.
He scores loads for us and we don't create a lot of chances. In a team with better creative players he'd score even more than he does now imo.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeah.... I don't disagree. But most of them - the majority of them - aren't champions though.
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