The defenders toe brushed the undersole of his boot, resulting in him crashing to the floor clutching his shin like he'd been shot. No way a pen.
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SteRobbo84
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I don't seem to recall that fat turd Samuel writing about how Skrtel could have broken Agbonlahor's neck when he pushed him in to the cowd. It was all deemed hilarious because some kopite meff got his camera out and took a photo.
As for Holgate; surely someone has managed to find a full length clip of the bbc angle?!
As for Holgate; surely someone has managed to find a full length clip of the bbc angle?!
summerisle
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...mino-has-to-confess-if-he-is-guilty-56bgjpwms
Lord Ouseley: Roberto Firmino has to confess if he is guilty
Roberto Firmino should hold up his hands if he made a racially offensive remark to Mason Holgate and learn from his mistake, the head of football’s anti-discrimination body has said.
Lord Ouseley, the chairman of Kick It Out, said the organisation had been in touch with both Holgate, the Everton defender, and Firmino, the Liverpool striker, via the clubs to offer its services.
Holgate has accused Firmino of making a racist remark to him during Friday’s FA Cup third-round derby at Anfield. The flashpoint came when Holgate pushed Firmino over advertising hoardings and into the crowd. The Brazil forward went back on to the pitch and ran towards Holgate, and the pair were involved in a heated verbal altercation as Bobby Madley, the referee, kept them apart.
The FA is investigating the allegation and Ouseley said Kick It Out now had much more confidence in the governing body after unhappiness over its handling of racism cases involving Luis Suárez and John Terry in 2011-12.
Ouseley told The Times: “If Firmino did say something racially offensive in the heat of the moment it would be better for all concerned, including himself, if he accepts that and then he can learn from a mistake.
“It will show to the next generation, who mimic what these top players do, that you can make mistakes and then put them right.
“We are even-handed in this and we are saying we are here if required. It may well be the player has wrongly been alleged to have committed an act of abuse.
“We encourage people to own up to what they have done, we believe that’s the easiest way forward.
“In the Suárez case he told us I don’t know how many times he was innocent and John Terry the same. Trevor Sinclair, however, has held up his hands and admitted his guilt.”
Sinclair, the former England winger, was given a community service order last week after admitting racially abusing a white police officer who had arrested him for drink-driving.
Ouseley added: “We are not involved in this latest investigation but we have been in touch with both clubs and the players offering any support to either party. We want to offer our services if players have been abused, or do not feel that they are getting the right treatment.”
The FA is due to announce today its strategic plan for 2018 and Ouseley said that he had been assured the organisation would take steps to address the lack of diversity in senior management and coaching roles, as well as a new system for whistleblowers to be heard after the Eni Aluko case.
“The diversity across the whole of the FA still leaves a lot to be desired,” he added. “Wembley and St George’s Park are very white institutions, particularly at senior level. Where are the women and BAME [black, Asian and minority ethnic] people in senior positions?”
Lord Ouseley: Roberto Firmino has to confess if he is guilty
Roberto Firmino should hold up his hands if he made a racially offensive remark to Mason Holgate and learn from his mistake, the head of football’s anti-discrimination body has said.
Lord Ouseley, the chairman of Kick It Out, said the organisation had been in touch with both Holgate, the Everton defender, and Firmino, the Liverpool striker, via the clubs to offer its services.
Holgate has accused Firmino of making a racist remark to him during Friday’s FA Cup third-round derby at Anfield. The flashpoint came when Holgate pushed Firmino over advertising hoardings and into the crowd. The Brazil forward went back on to the pitch and ran towards Holgate, and the pair were involved in a heated verbal altercation as Bobby Madley, the referee, kept them apart.
The FA is investigating the allegation and Ouseley said Kick It Out now had much more confidence in the governing body after unhappiness over its handling of racism cases involving Luis Suárez and John Terry in 2011-12.
Ouseley told The Times: “If Firmino did say something racially offensive in the heat of the moment it would be better for all concerned, including himself, if he accepts that and then he can learn from a mistake.
“It will show to the next generation, who mimic what these top players do, that you can make mistakes and then put them right.
“We are even-handed in this and we are saying we are here if required. It may well be the player has wrongly been alleged to have committed an act of abuse.
“We encourage people to own up to what they have done, we believe that’s the easiest way forward.
“In the Suárez case he told us I don’t know how many times he was innocent and John Terry the same. Trevor Sinclair, however, has held up his hands and admitted his guilt.”
Sinclair, the former England winger, was given a community service order last week after admitting racially abusing a white police officer who had arrested him for drink-driving.
Ouseley added: “We are not involved in this latest investigation but we have been in touch with both clubs and the players offering any support to either party. We want to offer our services if players have been abused, or do not feel that they are getting the right treatment.”
The FA is due to announce today its strategic plan for 2018 and Ouseley said that he had been assured the organisation would take steps to address the lack of diversity in senior management and coaching roles, as well as a new system for whistleblowers to be heard after the Eni Aluko case.
“The diversity across the whole of the FA still leaves a lot to be desired,” he added. “Wembley and St George’s Park are very white institutions, particularly at senior level. Where are the women and BAME [black, Asian and minority ethnic] people in senior positions?”
longers
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fair point, be arsed researching a tory sport like cricket though.
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Big Fat Sam
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100% going to end in a witchhunt against Holgate as they "cannot prove" what Firmino said. Nailed on, and Holgate will unfortunately gain an awful reputation and end up being abused by fans up and down the country. This is Everton.
Strange way of looking at it. If something happened between me and the bar tender, those people around us would be the first people the police or investigators would ask about it, they are called witnesses, along with CCTV.
The ref was also even closer to him than Holgate was....so ysing your example thats like saying a policeman was closer to the barman than I was when that incident happened.
TraffordBlue
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What happened was that Everton were finally given a reasonable decision concerning a penalty for only the 2nd time in 80 years at Anfield.
As you said in your final sentence, it is sub conscious bias. Although even then I am not so sure with one or two of them, Clattenburg and Poll being 2 of the most obvious examples. Atkinson as well.
So, in other words your notion of "big clubs" do not "get away with murder".
I notice you don't address Suarez's other ban, for Evra.
Ditto the Terry/Ferdinand incident.
Was that a case of a Chelsea player getting away with murder?
Both of those bans are very pertinent to the Holgate thing.
If there is evidence to corroborate our man's charges then Furmino will face a lengthy ban.
bluestevon
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4 days on and on the lfc echo page can't see an article about it either lol
SiEdmo
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yanno what that's a bloody good point that, but saying that I feel the deplorable *****s would be more likely to defend them had he done it, so by that I can only assume he is innocent haha
toffee-L
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They've learnt their lessons from Suarez mate, Firmino almost certainly won't get banned due to a lack of provable evidence and that will be when the LFC cringe machine will go into overdrive. It was incredibly damaging to their brand concerning the whole Suarez affair, they supported him like their life depended on (well he was their only good player, so maybe their life did depend on it) and made themselves look like utter fools when Suarez ended up admitting it. They won't be making that mistake again. They're still detestable pond-life, they're just smarter now.
Steve0
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There is a frightening percentage of RS fans who don't realise this.
Practically the whole ground was singing 'one lying barsteward' at Evra. They hadn't got the propaganda memo, they're supposed to say he said it but he was being pally.
Thing is a lot (and i mean a LOT) of them go with both lines without any awareness that they contradict each other.
Honestly the weirdest bunch of people on the planet.
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