Don’t see the uproar about Holgate pushing him into the crowd.
A shove in the back is a term of endearment in Barnsley.
A shove in the back is a term of endearment in Barnsley.
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He got an 8 game suspension for racism as well, have you forgotten the entire Evra incident ?
Terry also got banned for his comments to Anton Ferdinand.
Please stop with this 'dey get away wiv it cos dey r a big club' nonsense. Literally ALL the evidence points to them not getting away with racism.
As for the rest of your post it's all a bit strawman tbh, you need to back it up with stats that they are favoured more. I think it's a bit rich going on about them getting more penalties when we've had the most penalties awarded in the league this year (including some proper spawny ones) and the two biggest clubs (United and Liverpool) are near the bottom of the table.
https://www.statbunker.com/competitions/ForPenalty?comp_id=586
In my experience no one can ever back up their claims about favourtism with statistics so im inclined to believe it's just irrational/emotional football fans doing what they do best... be paranoid. Literally every clubs fans think they are persecuted by the FA, this should tell you something !
It's also nearly always the big clubs managers who get banned from sidelines, this will partly be down to personality but its yet more evidence that if you're a gosh*te you get punished regardless of which club you represent.
at the request of the FA... forgot that bit didn't you
Will the FA be looking at the Lallana drop down dead fall when barely touched on Friday? No indication as of yet that they are. Did the FA look at Hazard's dive when there was just a touch on his toe against Arsenal the other night? No. Why? Not necessarily because it was Chelsea but because it would have damaged the reputation of the ref. The same ref Taylor that gave Niasse a penalty. A retrospective ban would have questioned his competency and considering he is a FIFA ref, it could have wider consequences. Did the FA look at Ramsay's dive against Burnley that enabled them to get 3 points instead of 1? No.
All too often as you say there are certain clubs that get favourable treatment. The FA's and Sky's darling six it was four but City and Spurs have been added. It is not until they play each other and the refs don't really know what to do and there is an incident and it goes one way and not to the other team that there is a right hullabaloo. Hazard's dive against Arsenal for instance or Mane getting sent off against City. It is in those games that there is reams and reams of newsprint and hours and hours of media coverage to the 'incident'. But if it is us v some team or West Brom v Stoke it doesn't get the same coverage. And heaven forbid a decision goes against an English team in Europe or in an international.
The FA have correctly made a noise about racism in Eastern Europe but were conveniently silent when it happened in Madrid. The FA will act when things are highlighted because they are forced to. On racism they can't take the moral high ground when it happens abroad if they don't do anything here.
It is up to our club to stand up and protect Holgate because as sure as night follows day he is in for a rough ride on social media and the media generally as Martin Smauel's article in the Mail shows. Question Holgate's action to deflect from what Firmino said. There is amble evidence that decisions go the way of the FA and Sky six in the English game. A bit different when it is the Champions or Europa league, and then you get the moans, groans and conspiracies against the 'English' from the media when a decision knocks out an English team.
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Because it doesn't fit the criteria for the diving panel to look at it. For them to give bans afterwards the dive has to have benefited the divers team either via a penalty or a sending off.
It won a penalty for Chelsea?
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Oh right, I checked results quickly and it didn't say one of them was a penalty. Maybe they will look at it then, was it a nailed on 100% dive ? ie: as bad or worse than Niasse's ?
Hazard got a penalty and scored.
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I think they have to score from the penalty for the retrospective ban to come in
Well his foot got touched and he went down like he had been shot so no doubt in my mind if they said Niasse was a dive and made it look worse than it was then Hazards was just as bad. Not sure if they are including FA Cup games as nothing has been mentioned about Lallanas "I've been shot" fall.
They didn't look at DCL's one either to be fair, people here have short memories
If they looked at DCL - which they should have under the Niasse criteria - and he was banned that would have been two Everton players banned and not one from any other premier league team. That would have looked odd. Either we are a bunch of divers or we are being unduly punished. Now that would have been a talking point.
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You said in your post before to Tel001 : "As for the rest of your post it's all a bit strawman tbh, you need to back it up with stats that they are favoured more". Which is why I provided some stats with penalties specifically mentioned as you were discussing them too. Also, having travelled away with Everton for years, I often remember us falling behind in the 98th minute at places like the Emirates, with 8 minutes of injury time indicated by the referee, only for the ref to "even things up" for us and give us a penalty of our own in the 12th minute of stoppage time (3 or 4 mins over).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9455498.stm
Arsenal 1 - 1 Liverpool (van Persie 98, Kuyt, 102).
"We conceded a penalty after 11 minutes and the extra time was only eight minutes, I don't know where this additional time came from," said Wenger.
That said, it's not just them who get favoured. The other 'Big clubs' do as well, and get loads of decisions that the likes of Swansea or Bournemouth just wouldn't get.
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Lanzini got done for diving recently didn't he ?
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Play for West Ham. Not one of the 'Big 6'. Rules don't apply to Dele Alli though.
Yes after the DCL incident. But West Ham not one of the FA and Sky six.
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We have 7x as many penalties as Spurs this season and over 3x as many penalties as Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal... whilst barely attacking in 90% of our matches !
Where is the big club bias there ? What happened to the bias when DCL was given a penalty at Anfield ? How do they decide who to favour when 2 big teams go up against each other ? or do they stop being biased for those matches ?
I just can't buy into the conspiracy im afraid. Furthest I'll go is that there is perhaps some kind of sub conscious bias but even them im skeptical. Not for one second do I believe the refs are all under instruction to favour the big teams.
Where is the big club bias there ? What happened to the bias when DCL was given a penalty at Anfield ? How do they decide who to favour when 2 big teams go up against each other ? or do they stop being biased for those matches ?
I just can't buy into the conspiracy im afraid. Furthest I'll go is that there is perhaps some kind of sub conscious bias but even them im skeptical. Not for one second do I believe the refs are all under instruction to favour the big teams.
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