Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

At the top of our government is a large Civil Service. The civil service is organised into various ministries all of whom are headed up by an elected MP, drawn from across the party that was elected by the people of the U.K.

Now the EU Commission, Bruce tells me, is just like our Civil Service, but can you tell me which elected MEP’s get to run and oversee the various commission ‘ministries’ and how many votes did they receive ?.....

You don't vote for the Health Minister though (or indeed the prime minister!). You vote for your local MP, and those MPs represent their communities in parliament, just as MEPs do in the European Parliament.

 

[random]

Oh you poor repressed minority you.

condescending or sarcasm ?

either way not very respectful of an opposing point of view.

 

[Xizor]

walking through london

Come the revolution it'll be the Socialist Republic of Remoania

 

[tsubaki]

But the USA has a tortuous process for voting in a President and he gets to pick his team, the EU had one of their 3 unelected Presidents at the recent G7, which voters did he represent ?.....in fact why was he even there ?....

Juncker? He was elected as the result of his grouping winning the most seats in the EU Parliament.

 

[Kiwi]

condescending or sarcasm ?

either way not very respectful of an opposing point of view.

Read the context darl

 

[Brisan123]

And a hell of a lot practical engineering skills to carry it out. Is that professional engineering knowledge available?

It probably is ,but will come at a huge cost.
Contractors rubbing their hands in glee and multiplying estimates by 10 knowing the British Government is in a panic

 

[peteblue]

Juncker? He was elected as the result of his grouping winning the most seats in the EU Parliament.

Juncker wasn’t at the G7......

 

[peteblue]

You don't vote for the Health Minister though (or indeed the prime minister!). You vote for your local MP, and those MPs represent their communities in parliament, just as MEPs do in the European Parliament.

Which MEP’s are Commissioners running departments ?....

 

[tsubaki]

Juncker wasn’t at the G7......

he was one of the "three unelected Presidents" though, with "unelected" meaning "elected" of course

 

[RichardP]

I honestly think you need to read up on this and come back when you have proof that is how it works. Each member government could block a piece of legislation if it was deemed harmful to them.

Really! And what happens in a couple of years time when we move from consensus to qualified majority?

I have read up on it.

Remainer arrogance shining through like a searchlight - again.

Something I was always told about searchlights - if they can see you, then you can see them!

 

[Brisan123]

But you give away your insecurity about UK in your own words.

The Uk was, is and will remain strong enough to survive and thrive. A negotiation takes place between 2 equals. That has always been the EU failing - believing it can dictate. It can't. And that is one of the main reasons why we will leave - either on WTO terms or with a deal that suits us.

Either is fine with me.

So the EU and Britain are economic equals???

 

[RichardP]

So the EU and Britain are economic equals???

In negotiations, yes. Because UK are negotiating as a free independent state. Something we will never be if we remain in EU.

And if germany wants to keep selling us BMW and Merc cars it would do well to take that on board.

It is a bit late in the day but Merkel is finally showing signs of doing just that.

So, to answer your question in one word. Yes!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Which MEP’s are Commissioners running departments ?....

Commissioners are nominated by their national governments and then selected by the Council (which is all elected heads of state).

 

[Jebus_lives]

But I thought you didn’t approve of Boris, but now you seem to approve of nefarious political machinations as long as it’s Corbyn.....

I don't follow this. Are you suggesting that undermining the efforts of your own PM, voting against a deal that takes us out of the EU while maintaining that you want to leave and producing separate articles in your newspaper column for leave and remain are the same as wanting to avoid a 'no deal Brexit'?

Corbyn has been fairly consistent all along he doesn't want a no deal, but he does favour leaving the EU - I'm confused as to why you don't support that position?

 

[tsubaki]

In negotiations, yes. Because UK are negotiating as a free independent state. Something we will never be if we remain in EU.

And if germany wants to keep selling us BMW and Merc cars it would do well to take that on board.

It is a bit late in the day but Merkel is finally showing signs of doing just that.

So, to answer your question in one word. Yes!

Really this sort of thing is beyond parody.