Current Affairs Ukraine

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They not gonna start blowing nuclear powers plants, why would they, its very close to Russian border and it would be a lot of Russian people who suffer too.
There is no benefit whatsoever to start blowing plants, i mean it would be suicide for Russian soldiers too
Yeah just silly. It’s like having a massive nuclear arsenal and threatening to use it :oops:
 
Nato, Europe and the States have manipulated, gutted and raped them countries.
Please cite evidence of Estonia / Latvia / Lithuania's "gutting and raping" under American "rule".

Feel free to contrast it with Poland's suffering under Russian occupation during the Warsaw Pact era.

Alternatively we can agree that the manipulation is apparent, and damning, but the Baltic States and Poland have not actually been "gutted and raped" by NATO / EU / USA.

We've already lost one poster on this thread due to his myopic, hysterical hyperbole. It's not a goal to which one should aspire.
 
Only Sweden, Finland and Austria remains out of NATO i believe

Anyway battle lines are drawn, USA, Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, S. Korea on one side
Russia and China (plus India is very close to Russia), Middle East hate us (with a very good reason), Africa and South America just go with it, though i noticed going through comments on social media a lot of people there sympathize with Russia, especially a lot of South Americans seems to despise USA
There's been extensive meddling in South America by the USA. For decades. They have few friends in that part of the world.
 
Please cite evidence of Estonia / Latvia / Lithuania's "gutting and raping" under American "rule".

Feel free to contrast it with Poland's suffering under Russian occupation during the Warsaw Pact era.

Alternatively we can agree that the manipulation is apparent, and damning, but the Baltic States and Poland have not actually been "gutted and raped" by NATO / EU / USA.

We've already lost one poster on this thread due to his myopic, hysterical hyperbole. It's not a goal to which one should aspire.
I'm still waiting on him to answer me, maybe soon haha!

His one Romanian has the insights I believe.

Imagine saying NATO are worse than what they had experienced during their occupation and being serious about that statement hahaha!
 
Putins aggression or NATOs for expanding east?
Do you expect NATO to refuse applications from Sweden and Finland now, if they are submitted?

Would you have ANY criticism of Ukraine applying to join, if they survive this onslaught?

NATO doesn't need to try to "expand". Putin is driving every non-aligned country straight into a choice between NATO protection or Russian subjugation.
 
Please cite evidence of Estonia / Latvia / Lithuania's "gutting and raping" under American "rule".

Feel free to contrast it with Poland's suffering under Russian occupation during the Warsaw Pact era.

Alternatively we can agree that the manipulation is apparent, and damning, but the Baltic States and Poland have not actually been "gutted and raped" by NATO / EU / USA.

We've already lost one poster on this thread due to his myopic, hysterical hyperbole. It's not a goal to which one should aspire.
I've zeroed in on romania specifically. I'm getting back to Steve later. Admittedly id have to do research on others. But not this.
 
They not gonna start blowing nuclear powers plants, why would they, its very close to Russian border and it would be a lot of Russian people who suffer too.
There is no benefit whatsoever to start blowing plants, i mean it would be suicide for Russian soldiers too
Because. They. Are. Incompetent.

Why would Russia cluster bomb hospitals and schools, what benefit do they get from that? The entire Russian army, much like its ruling staff is incompetent, has no idea what they are doing and the consequences of it, and is and HAS been unhinged for some time. Putin literally fires people who are competent and replaces them with people who will tell him yes. Who in turn do the same below them.

Its not that they would intentionally start off WW3, its that they are too egotistical and unable to do even basic things at a basic level of competence. That basically sums up Russia for the past however many years.
 
I have nothing but admiration for all those trapped by the evil western Empire who long for the utopian life on offer in Russia, North Korea, China and the like but are being held prisoners by the capitalist overlords!

I have recreated an exact replica Eastern German government owned flat, circa 1945.

Resplendent in brown furniture and all finished off with listening devices in every room.

I got @davek in, to help with the interior design and also to assist with planting listening devices in the communal areas, so that I can keep a close eye on the neo liberal scum in the rest of the block.
 
I hope you're mistaken. I hope they knew exactly what they were doing. Another 4 nuclear plants or so to go. If it's trigger happy squaddies then we're bound to get an accident.
Nope don’t think so - Russia has piss poor command & control of their forces on the ground.

It’s astonishing just how really [Poor language removed] their army is. Total bunch of scruffs.

The only way this ends is lopping the head off the snake
 
I've zeroed in on romania specifically. I'm getting back to Steve later. Admittedly id have to do research on others. But not this.
For clarity, are you saying you have no evidence or are you refusing to cite it?

I only ask because, well, you haven't offered any. So are you merely voicing a suspicion of western gutting and raping of for independent states, or adamantly stating it as fact?

Not having a go. Just asking you to be crystal clear.
 
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