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[Kev The Rat]

Why did he struggle so much with controlling Donbas unlike Crimea though

I think he grabbed it in the immediete aftermath of Maidan and it was kind of a surprise move.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Thing is UKR was nowhere near being on the brink of NATO accession, on Feb 24...

This is a generally accepted fact. The timetable was open to question. This will set that timetable well back.

He broken the Chechens. He look to have the same strategy here.

He had the manpower. He doesn't here, and never did. It's a simple math problem. Soldiers under arms/general population to be pacified. If the ratio is too low, they always win. If it's high enough, the occupier wins if and only if they have the political will to take the actions and spend the lives necessary to quell unrest.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

He had the manpower. He doesn't here, and never did. It's a simple math problem. Soldiers under arms/general population to be pacified. If the ratio is too low, they always win. If it's high enough, the occupier wins if and only if they have the political will to take the actions and spend the lives necessary to quell unrest.

Agree. That Major general fella said that the ratio of troops to civilians in order to keep them in order was in the region of 20 troops per 1000 people. So if there's say 44 million Ukes then that means a force of 880,000 required to keep the country under control.

 

[orchard]

Oh so you've completely missed the point?

He's slating the government here for giving the Ukraine ambassador a round of applause/ovation. Well why didn't he slate the EU - that great and all powerful trading bloc - for doing the same yesterday.

Both are absolutely meaningless gestures, but do show solidarity

The EU, UK, US etc are all doing their bit. They could all do more and I think they will do, though we know it has to stop short of all out warfare. I have no issue at all with the EU commission/MEPs giving a standing ovation and no issue with our government doing it either, as long as they are acting to do what's within their power to help the situation without causing war and right now, they are doing (all of them).

No. You have. It's not really for me to explain another posters stance, but it's self evident from his posting history on this thread that he feels OUR government is making all the noise and there for the photo-shots whilst doing pretty much the least regarding the allies you mentioned. He's been consistently pointing out the hypocrisy of this government throughout, with some justification I feel.

 

[LostLegend]

Leaving the country to where exactly ?

Belarus?

More nonsense

The trains are still running, there's nothing stopping most Russian citizens from travelling to anywhere they border with (Except Ukraine that is)

You come across as an exceptionally ignorant person, you know?

 

[Kev The Rat]

The trains are still running, there's nothing stopping most Russian citizens from travelling to anywhere they border with (Except Ukraine that is)

You come across as an exceptionally ignorant person, you know?

you think Russians can just walk into any neighbouring country they want to without visas?

Not sure maybe Georgia, Kazakhstan and Mongolia will let them in.

 

[BlueTX]

My next door neighbor is a retired USAF Colonel. He told me this AM he's aware of at least 50 recently retired US military personnel from this area who have already departed for Ukraine. Most of them have medical backgrounds.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Damn some of the pictures from Kherson look awful

 

[Kev The Rat]

My next door neighbor is a retired USAF Colonel. He told me this AM he's aware of at least 50 recently retired US military personnel from this area who have already departed for Ukraine. Most of them have medical backgrounds.

Yeah this is about getting these people medical aid.

 

[LostLegend]

you think Russians can just walk into any neighbouring country they want to without visas?

Obviously not. But plenty there have familial ties with neighboring countries, particularly the former soviet countries that would negate this.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Obviously not. But plenty there have familial ties with neighboring countries, particularly the former soviet countries that would negate this.

I really dont think going to Kazakhstan or Georgia was what was being referred to in the post, but I may be wrong.

Cant see any Baltic states having them, family ties or not

 

[LinekersLegs]

you think Russians can just walk into any neighbouring country they want to without visas?

Not sure maybe Georgia, Kazakhstan and Mongolia will let them in.

Armenia apparently very easy and their government actively trying to make transfer of business smooth

 

[BlueTX]

Yeah this is about getting these people medical aid.

Another buddy of mine was a sniper in the Croatian Army who fought the Serbs. He said he'd go if he "wasn't so damn old now." He's got no love for the Russians.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Another buddy of mine was a sniper in the Croatian Army who fought the Serbs. He said he'd go if he "wasn't so damn old now." He's got no love for the Russians.

Dude look at the level of shelling going on there. Its like WW2.

A handful of veterans isnt going to provide any help to these poor people.