Current Affairs Ukraine

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Ukraine: Watching the war on Russian TV - a whole different story

The war in Ukraine has led to outrage in the West, but in Russia TV viewers see a very different story.

www.bbc.co.uk

*ducks*

 

[Kev The Rat]

It's nihilism and targeting the general population in the way you propose is a deliberate crime against humanity. A Putin Ukraine will never accepted to those who prescribe to human rights etc.

well thats whats gonna happen.

 

[Charro]

Ukraine: Watching the war on Russian TV - a whole different story

The war in Ukraine has led to outrage in the West, but in Russia TV viewers see a very different story.

www.bbc.co.uk

*ducks*

The BBC?

You monster.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Kin hell, I'm surprised the Tories didn't bring along saucepans and wooden spoons too, just to show how very enthusiastic they are about doing as little as possible. While the Russian donations piled high into their Cayman islands accounts
Perhaps next time they could sell some little pin badges that say, "I clapped for Ukraine"

 

[BlueToff]

Biden mentioned Ukraine 17 times in that speech and given that the speeches are written down and he reads from them, the word "Ukrainian" was in that speech. That Biden said "Iranian" due to tiredness, his speech impediment, or even advancing age is pretty much a non-issue, except for superficial right-wing clowns to pretend it's their "gotchya" moment as a way to compensate for supporting racist, accused rapist, traitorous, corrupt, bankrupt, serial fabricator President "Covfefe Person Woman Man Camera TV" Trump.

It's not though

The bloke does come across as completely addled. he botched the US withdrawal from Afghanistan and there is no doubt that Putin did this because he sees America as being weaker than ever before.

Look, I hated Trump and do not long for those days back. But Biden's been pretty disastrous so far too.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

The BBC?

You monster.

The beautiful irony of the chief propagandists* deconstructing propaganda was too good not to share

*copyright @Kev The Rat and @Death

 

[BlueToff]

Kin hell, I'm surprised the Tories didn't bring along saucepans and wooden spoons too, just to show how very enthusiastic they are about doing as little as possible. While the Russian donations piled high into their Cayman islands accounts
Perhaps next time they could sell some little pin badges that say, "I clapped for Ukraine"

The EU did this yesterday - clapped the Ukrainian president after a vid call where he desperately asked for more help. Why were you not slagging them off?

Get this into your warped mind. Not everything is this government's fault.

 

[JammyP]

No don't remember Stalingrad - bit before my time.

When Russians were heroes...

BBC Sounds - Grossman's War - Available Episodes

Listen to the latest episodes of Grossman's War on BBC Sounds

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[bullybeef]

Kin hell, I'm surprised the Tories didn't bring along saucepans and wooden spoons too, just to show how very enthusiastic they are about doing as little as possible. While the Russian donations piled high into their Cayman islands accounts
Perhaps next time they could sell some little pin badges that say, "I clapped for Ukraine"

Took the pish this today.
So embarrassing.

 

[stipe]

It's nihilism and targeting the general population in the way you propose is a deliberate crime against humanity. A Putin Ukraine will never accepted to those who prescribe to human rights etc.

If they decide to push, and they almost certainly will, even if they try to avoid targeting civilian casualties, its gonna be chaos, heavy combat in urban area always gonna end with ruined city and civilian casualties.

Countless examples from history, even recent one, here in Croatia city of Vukovar has fallen after 87 day siege in 1991, not a single house remained standing, and what happened to many survived defenders after city fall, they still finding hidden mass graves

Battle of Vukovar - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[LinekersLegs]

Like the channels are removed from YouTube.

And I'm getting bombarded with propaganda organisations that spun lies that got zombies to be for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Horrific.

Many Ukrainians are having their entire media, not to mention their water and electricity removed.

They are having their cities, homes, kids and pets bombarded by bombs and there is a mass humanitarian crisis forming with thousands having to flee.

And you are on here saying it is “horrific“ that you can’t watch a few YouTube videos.

Gnerally try and avoid personal attacks on posters but this is a bloody gross post.

 

[orchard]

The EU did this yesterday - clapped the Ukrainian president after a vid call where he desperately asked for more help. Why were you not slagging them off?

Get this into your warped mind. Not everything is this government's fault.

Because we're not in the EU, and no longer participate in their elections?

 

[bullybeef]

It’s becoming clearer that someone within Putins circle needs to do the right thing and execute the bloke.

The longer this carry’s on the greater loss of life (on both sides), the more financial/economic pain for everyone, and the more instability.

For Christ sake, make yourself a hero and despatch Putin!

 

[BlueToff]

Because we're not in the EU, and no longer participate in their elections?

Oh so you've completely missed the point?

He's slating the government here for giving the Ukraine ambassador a round of applause/ovation. Well why didn't he slate the EU - that great and all powerful trading bloc - for doing the same yesterday.

Both are absolutely meaningless gestures, but do show solidarity

The EU, UK, US etc are all doing their bit. They could all do more and I think they will do, though we know it has to stop short of all out warfare. I have no issue at all with the EU commission/MEPs giving a standing ovation and no issue with our government doing it either, as long as they are acting to do what's within their power to help the situation without causing war and right now, they are doing (all of them).

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Because we're not in the EU, and no longer participate in their elections?

Aye aye we are Sovereign independent state innit.