Save lives by the subjugation of a population into Soviet slavery.
Your transition into right wing ghoul from contrarian wum is one of the saddest tales on this forum.
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Save lives by the subjugation of a population into Soviet slavery.
Your transition into right wing ghoul from contrarian wum is one of the saddest tales on this forum.
Spadge Vernacular
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Looks reality is starting to hit Moscovites.
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The Russian defence minister is in NK begging for weapons and support as Assad arrives in Moscow, begging for weapons and support. Hezbollah and Irans ability to support Russia being taken apart. The rouble continues to collapse. Russian housing market nosediving. Potato prices through the roof. Russia losing 2000 troops a day and now having to target nightclubs in Moscow for cannon fodder. Ukraine now targeting inside russia at will. Georgia rebelling against Putins puppet. It's all getting a bit unhinged for little Vlad and he still has another month of this to survive.
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There are reports of mass desertion of Russian troops in Kherson. Must be part of the Black Friday deals.
Two for one deals on sacks of Potatoes.
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Danny still hasn't got the chops right.
Dave getting so giddy he's positively tumescent at the thought of a potential Ukrainian genocide starting.
Utterly 'kin shameful.
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Press gangs are back.
I believe this has likely been doing on for a while, to different extents. While I ain't questioning a lot of Russians' patriotic beliefs, the meat grinder ain't appealing.
Even with the censorship that takes place in the country, the sheer number of soldiers going off and not coming back, or coming back injured, can't be hidden.
We're talking about 3/4 of a million dead or wounded, so you'd expect in the simplest sense many seeing friends or acquittances going and not coming back.
Or if they are coming back, they'll be returning not in the best of states, and these will talk.... as normal soldiers do. The censorship can't hide it all.
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They've already suffered a genocide at the hands of Putin and Zelensky.
Thankfully all this will soon be over...which is what the majority of Ukrainians want.
My views are consistent with Ukrainians; yours and your strange friends are the luxury of people sitting in their comfortable homes in the west who dont have to face the reality of an all out war that's already cost about half a million lives.
Was reading about phillippe petain and the collaborative vichy government.
From hero, to zero. But to be fair to him, Gamelin wasn't much bloody better.
Gamelin was old and stuck in his ways, petain actively threw his lot in with the nazis and ushered in some of the persecution they are infamous for in France.
I suppose war, like business is quite easy, back the bigger belligerent and you'll often come out on the winning side. Ethics and morals and all that stuff don't tend to mean an awful lot when they're written in the books that go on the fire first.
There's no way I am going to defend Pétain, far from it, but I think this point is something that is often not focused on enough when discussing conflict et al.
As I've said before, hindsight is wonderful thing for us to use, but the real issue is you never have it at the time. We need to put ourselves into their shoes!
As Cicero said, "Inter arma enim silent leges," which roughly translated as 'In war, the law falls silent.' It's easier to be a saint when not in such dire circumstances.
Pétain's desire to retain some form of French control over its own land home and abroad, rather than a full German takeover, is somewhat understandable.
But, I think we can all agree the lengths he went, and perhaps other motives for his actions, went far and beyond that.
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