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[davek]

You're right about why would the Republicans get it through Congress. But there's splits and political paralysis in the US. The Empire's hegonomy is crumbling, and it has become a pariah state over Palestine, which is causing further paralysis. The Global South won't follow the US over sanctions against Russia, it's lost that area for influence. This is further compounded by Palestine, greater making it a pariah state, again leading to splits and paralysis. Warmongering is the name of the game and I think the warmongering Republicans what that more than anything. Hence, Pence throwing in the towel is significant. The survival of the US Empire is more important to the political class than party politics. Because isn't the US party politics all about the US Empire's interests in the world.

There are those saying ditch Ukraine and solely concentrate on Palestine because they know they can't fight on two fronts. Others are saying no, we need three front fight Russia, China Iran. Russia they'be got proxies to do it, so no US body bags. China, they're busy trying to get an alliance going to do the dirty work, Australia, South Korea and Japan and others, to take on China. Still no US body bags. Iran is the real goal around the Palestine issue for the US. The colonial occupiers are their proxy warmongers and have always been. But, it's not looking good for their proxies in Israel as the Arab and Muslim world have become inflamed. The Vietnam syndrome kicks in and it resulted in US further direct involvement, after the French lost the will to fight because they had other issues to deal with. The US will be forced to get further involved, than the military sdvisors already in Palestine, if it's start to goes belly up for Netanyahu.

Ukraine is dispensable for the US Empire. There are bigger issues to deal with. Palestine being the immediate troubling issue for them.

You can't retain that unity by backing a force that will never prevail in Ukraine. Regardless of US personnel not being involved, that's just going to be seen as throwing good money after bad. It's already one of the biggest cleavages between the Republicans and Democrats and I think it gets bigger once the primaries begin.

As you pointed out here the US has a lot of plates to spin. Ukraine looks like a money pit and I doubt an election leaves that issue lying on the floor and not picked up, regardless of the next line in selling an arms deal based on US manufacturing gains.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Russia raises its interest rate to 15% so the Ukraine problem isn’t a problem at all. Ruble is collapsing but no burden on the Russian consumer. India is balking on paying for cheap oil in Yuan. Yes, the Ukrainian money pit has gotten out of hand.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

If Vlad hasn't kicked the bucket then this is some top level trolling.

Dear subscribers and guests of the channel! Yesterday afternoon, Russian President Vladimir Putin's health began to deteriorate sharply. At about 20.00 Moscow time, the doctors on duty called an additional team of doctors, who upon arrival, within fifteen minutes, began resuscitating the president; by that time, Putin’s condition was critical. At 20.42 Moscow time, doctors stopped resuscitation and pronounced the president dead. After informing the security officers on duty at the door about what had happened. By personal order of Dmitry Kochnev, the room in the presidential residence in Valdai, which was converted into an intensive care ward in which Putin died, was blocked. The doctors remained locked with the president's corpse. Security officers ordered the doctors to calm down, not make noise and wait. Dmitry Kochnev carries out the instructions of the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev. Also, by order of Kochnev, the security of the president’s double was strengthened. Now the question, including the future fate of doctors, is being resolved. Negotiations on the creation of a coalition of representatives of the pro-Putin elites under the leadership of Nikolai Patrushev are almost completed to preserve the current regime and use Putin’s double in the image of the president. But!!! If when Putin was alive, it was possible to use a double without any problems, in extreme cases it was possible to present the real one, then after his (Putin’s) death, any attempt to pass off the double as the president is a COUP D’ETAT! Shortly before the president’s death, when it was already clear that he was dying, the option of putting Putin into a medically induced coma was considered, thus preserving a “fresh corpse”, so that after a clear determination with the successor and a smooth transfer of power, present the “freshly deceased” to the public, but this option, due to the death that has already happened, he has disappeared and how his surroundings will act is also being decided. We will inform you as information becomes available.

https://t.me/s/generalsvr (General Azul)

Instead of the Kremlin putting statements out over the last couple of days describing reports of hos death as absurd, I am sure that they will get Vlad to make a live appearance soon.

Satan will recall the monster to hell at some point, hate to say it but it'd be great if it really is now.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Arming Ukraine is cheap compared to the far higher price of Russian victory

Anyone concerned by the cost of supporting the Ukrainian war effort should consider the far higher price the Western world would have to pay in order to stop Putin following a Russian victory in Ukraine, writes Peter Dickinson.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

If Vlad hasn't kicked the bucket then this is some top level trolling.


https://t.me/s/generalsvr (General Azul)

Instead of the Kremlin putting statements out over the last couple of days describing reports of hos death as absurd, I am sure that they will get Vlad to make a live appearance soon.

Satan will recall the monster to hell at some point, hate to say it but it'd be great if it really is now.

Sounds like they wanted to pickle him!

 

[ramacca]

 

[ramacca]

Interesting read.

I'd go further and say, the US Empire humiliatingly high tailed it out of Afghanistan because it was preparing the Ukraine military for an attack on the Donbass and couldn't fight on two fronts. The hotter it gets for the colonial occupiers of Palestinian, the US Empire will ditch Zelensky quicker than you can say Kabul.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Opinion | Waging Psychological War Against Russia

The U.S. has a real opportunity to erode Putin’s propaganda.

www.politico.com

 

[varnish]

If Vlad hasn't kicked the bucket then this is some top level trolling.


https://t.me/s/generalsvr (General Azul)

Instead of the Kremlin putting statements out over the last couple of days describing reports of hos death as absurd, I am sure that they will get Vlad to make a live appearance soon.

Satan will recall the monster to hell at some point, hate to say it but it'd be great if it really is now.

Ffs @chicoazul has started on telegram now?

 

[ramacca]

The sooner Zelensky organises a prisoner exchange the better.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Sounds like they wanted to pickle him!

Heard the Russians have stepped up their Cryogenics and their first contestant is Vlad. Actually died three days ago.

 

[ramacca]

The writings on the wall for Avdiivka.

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[ramacca]

Russian air defence system.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

The writings on the wall for Avdiivka.

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You mean for the Russian speaking people Vlad is killing?

 

[Martin Alvito]

Interesting read.

I'd go further and say, the US Empire humiliatingly high tailed it out of Afghanistan because it was preparing the Ukraine military for an attack on the Donbass and couldn't fight on two fronts. The hotter it gets for the colonial occupiers of Palestinian, the US Empire will ditch Zelensky quicker than you can say Kabul.

This is more or less what the realists like Mearsheimer were saying about NATO expansion for twenty-five years, just without all the rhetoric.

We left Afghanistan for the same reason the British and Russians did. We lost. Nobody wanted the war in Ukraine from a policy standpoint, but once it kicked off in earnest, supporting Ukraine was a no-brainer from an interests perspective.

Between 2014 and 2022, the US sent Ukraine something like three billion in military and economic assistance. That's not chump change, but it's also a drop in the ocean of a $50 billion annual budget. For perspective, in FY 2020 we sent Jordan almost five times as much, and sent more to places like Egypt, Ethiopia, Nigeria and Kenya than we sent to Ukraine.

That doesn't look like deliberately provoking the war in Ukraine to me. The war there was a predictable consequence of US policy, but if the US had intended to start it we would have prepped for it a lot harder than we did.