Current Affairs Ukraine

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

"Skewered" of course its operational tactics ffs and how Putin has 'justified' it as initially a 'peacekeeping' mission.

Im not sure whats so hard to comprehend.



As @Viennablue stated, if Trump was in Putins pocket as so many are bizarrely claiming then this would all have happened under Trump.

Its happened under the non-president for obvious reasons.



So youre saying that after 2 shambolic cowardly disgusting military events you believe that Biden would win an election today over Trump?

I find that unlikely and with (as alot of people in the financial markets predict) a stock market crash on the wsy...

...Biden will have failed where Trump had no conflict with China/Russia and grew the economy.

Id not want either of them but Biden really is a totally incompetent coward.

"We stand with Ukraine"

Dearie me.


The sanctions should have immediately been much harder.

Biden has almost told Putin to go for it.


You HAVE to hit the Russian population and corporations with the sanctions. This is the only way the public opinion will turn against Putin.

Theres a number of harder hitting sanctions, not least SWIFT and also cutting off all trade...as Germany, Italy and Hungary refused to do.

Not to mention revocation of Russian visas along with asset freezing of the Federation and Duma members.

To immediately cut off all trade and movement outside of Russia annex's them and puts enormous pressure from all sides on Putin.

As for 'illegal' means I would see how certain funds could be repatriated from certain Russian accounts into Ukraine to assist with the rebuild of the country.


You would vote for a President with a moral compass -- the irony.

The facts are on my side.

Stick to football you weapons grade bellend.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Interesting map that shows the Russian gains (or lack of). Russian gains shown in pink.

For all their supposed strength they haven’t achieved much. What a bunch of scruffs.

I doubt it. Ukraine have abandoned most of the country to protect the cities as I understand it?

 

[tsubaki]

the baffling thing about these attacks is they could, entirely legitimately*, declare a blockade of that area and clear all those ships out

* that is if they've actually declared war

 

[PhilM]

Interesting map that shows the Russian gains (or lack of). Russian gains shown in pink.

For all their supposed strength they haven’t achieved much. What a bunch of scruffs.

As @Mrk mentioned, it's pretty incompetent if correct although they have a fairly large reserve and there's snippets of more moving up from staging posts.

They have lost their element of surprise, their momentum has slowed, they've lost troops, armour and equipment and this will impact on moral.

The longer it rumbles on, the more it costs them and the more Ukraine will become emboldened. We know the Ukrainians are ratcheting up their reserve.

@Mutzo Nutzo have you heard of the Russian reluctance to dismount from their mechanised transport and conduct standard fire and manoeuvre?

Reporedly, a lot of the Russian casualties are fresh troops getting cooked in their IFVs due to not getting out and screening from MANPATS.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

"Skewered" of course its operational tactics ffs and how Putin has 'justified' it as initially a 'peacekeeping' mission.

Im not sure whats so hard to comprehend.



As @Viennablue stated, if Trump was in Putins pocket as so many are bizarrely claiming then this would all have happened under Trump.

Its happened under the non-president for obvious reasons.



So youre saying that after 2 shambolic cowardly disgusting military events you believe that Biden would win an election today over Trump?

I find that unlikely and with (as alot of people in the financial markets predict) a stock market crash on the wsy...

...Biden will have failed where Trump had no conflict with China/Russia and grew the economy.

Id not want either of them but Biden really is a totally incompetent coward.

"We stand with Ukraine"

Dearie me.


The sanctions should have immediately been much harder.

Biden has almost told Putin to go for it.


You HAVE to hit the Russian population and corporations with the sanctions. This is the only way the public opinion will turn against Putin.

Theres a number of harder hitting sanctions, not least SWIFT and also cutting off all trade...as Germany, Italy and Hungary refused to do.

Not to mention revocation of Russian visas along with asset freezing of the Federation and Duma members.

To immediately cut off all trade and movement outside of Russia annex's them and puts enormous pressure from all sides on Putin.

As for 'illegal' means I would see how certain funds could be repatriated from certain Russian accounts into Ukraine to assist with the rebuild of the country.


You would vote for a President with a moral compass -- the irony.

The facts are on my side.

This is some of the worst sh** I have ever read. It is not even remotely true, just utter lies to make your crap remotely viable.

Sorry of that is rude, but I find what you are saying actually offensive, it is mind bogglingly bad

 

[Tipp blue]

I was thinking this. Is he dying or on his way out and wants to go with a bang?

Cancer and Parkinson's apparently, could be BS..

 

[Zatara]

Bless your heart, Zat. I do believe you believe your fatuous nonsense.

The irony indeed.

I think youre just sad because the leader you seem to have voted for is an incompetent coward.

Whilst the one you hate did a superior job.

But youre so blinded by an agenda you just cant see it.

@Zatara

This didnt happen under Trump as Trump was doing Putins job for him. Destabilising America, threatening NATO withdrawl and lets not forget he withheld vital arms from Ukraine in exchange for dirt.

Why would Putin openly go on the attack, when he had leaders of powerful countries weakening their countries and democracy for him

@Viennablue covered this earlier in the main.

Just to game it out, do you think that Biden is behaving incompetently because of Trump?

Is he unable to act due to Trump? Is that what youre saying?

 

[john jako]

These ghost of Kiev videos are incredible. What a pilot this fella is.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

As @Mrk mentioned, it's pretty incompetent if correct although they have a fairly large reserve and there's snippets of more moving up from staging posts.

They have lost their element of surprise, their momentum has slowed, they've lost troops, armour and equipment and this will impact on moral.

The longer it rumbles on, the more it costs them and the more Ukraine will become emboldened. We know the Ukrainians are ratcheting up their reserve.

@Mutzo Nutzo have you heard of the Russian reluctance to dismount from their mechanised transport and conduct standard fire and manoeuvre?

Reporedly, a lot of the Russian casualties are fresh troops getting cooked in their IFVs due to not getting out and screening from MANPATS.

Yeah I’ve heard snippets. Going back to my experience in the 80’s in Berlin, we were always told that your average Soviet soldier is crap. Don’t want to be there, don’t know what to do. Take out the officers first and they go to pieces.

 

[john jako]

Stick to football you weapons grade bellend.

Don’t send him back to sector E ffs

 

[Alan Whittle]

"Skewered" of course its operational tactics ffs and how Putin has 'justified' it as initially a 'peacekeeping' mission.

Im not sure whats so hard to comprehend.

?.....and even after all that, you still didn’t answer the question.
Trump was not referring to operational tactics, he was referring to the justification for the invasion. You made that up. ( If you didn’t, show me where he says that?)
A totalitarian state invades a democracy....are you with me so far?
Putin justifies it by saying Ukraine is “an independent state”. Trump says this justification is “genius”.
Do you agree? Yes or No?
How difficult can it be?

 

[efcfanwirral]

Whilst I agree with you, I think some sort of decree that Ukraine would not join NATO would be a fair compromise. As another poster has said, would the USA allow Mexico to join an alliance headed by Russia?

ah but they are the BAD guys. We are the GOOD guys.

 

[Zatara]

This is some of the worst sh** I have ever read. It is not even remotely true, just utter lies to make your crap remotely viable.

Sorry of that is rude, but I find what you are saying actually offensive, it is mind bogglingly bad

You choose Biden over the Ukrainian people.

That is offensive.

 

[Zatara]

Clear now that all the Biden supporters are fully behind him doing nothing to support Ukraine.

Have a hard look at yourselves when you see them being bombed and their lives destroyed.

Absolute tragedy and he has opened the door to Putin to do this without any care in the world.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

I think youre just sad because the leader you seem to have voted for is an incompetent coward.

Whilst the one you hate did a superior job.

But youre so blinded by an agenda you just cant see it.


@Viennablue covered this earlier in the main.

Just to game it out, do you think that Biden is behaving incompetently because of Trump?

Is he unable to act due to Trump? Is that what youre saying?

With all due respect, GFY

The likes of Ingraham and Hannity wouldn't even say this, you utter baffoon