Current Affairs Ukraine

[Kev The Rat]

I have no doubt they wouldn't just hand it over. Although given that Ukraine have managed to pretty much hold back Russia after the initial incursion, and have even been able to push Russia back in certain areas, I don't think Russia would be able to prevent China annexing part of Russia's East without resorting to all out nuclear war.

Let's hope that China doesn't really want to take a large part of Russia

No country with nukes is going to have any part of its country annexed

It’s a non issue

 

[Goat]

I have no doubt they wouldn't just hand it over. Although given that Ukraine have managed to pretty much hold back Russia after the initial incursion, and have even been able to push Russia back in certain areas, I don't think Russia would be able to prevent China annexing part of Russia's East without resorting to all out nuclear war.

Let's hope that China doesn't really want to take a large part of Russia

China and Russia exchanging nukes wouldnt be the worst thing to happen.

 

[Yarrgh]

China and Russia exchanging nukes wouldnt be the worst thing to happen.

Uh ... actually it would be. The resulting nuclear winter is a potential total extinction event for humankind.

 

[Goat]

Uh ... actually it would be. The resulting nuclear winter is a potential total extinction event for humankind.

Still not seeing any negatives.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Patrick Lancaster gets thoughts on the ground

And the mood in Rostov is ready to carry on the fight

The girl in green at around 14 minutes understands the situation well.

 

[Yarrgh]

Still not seeing any negatives.

Surely we need to win the league before a third World War. So we should be safe for a while. Sorry!

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Patrick Lancaster gets thoughts on the ground

And the mood in Rostov is ready to carry on the fight

The girl in green at around 14 minutes understands the situation well.

Patrick Lancaster - Wikipedia

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You just can’t help yourself…

“Lancaster is an American YouTuber, influencer, and former US Navy sailor. Lancaster attempts to position himself as an 'independent crowdfunded journalist'. Lancaster has been widely described as a pro-Kremlin propagandist, and his videos have often been cited by western media due to their inadvertently exposing secret, and compromising Russian military information.”

Meet the US ‘Journalist’ Helping Spread the Kremlin’s Propaganda

Patrick Lancaster is one of several YouTubers who have evaded the platform’s anti-disinformation measures, and his pro-Russia coverage has made him a star.

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[COYBL25]

Uh ... actually it would be. The resulting nuclear winter is a potential total extinction event for humankind.

As long as Everton are involved, count me in.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Meanwhile 'unamed US Security officials' say the opposite.

The US seem to be pushing for a withdrawal from the area around Bakmut and to concentrate forces for a push on Mariupol. Seems daft to me, let the Ukrainians fight as they see fit, especially if they wont give them.ATACAMS. they'll be in HIMARS and GMLRS range of the black sea in about another 20km or so.

If they can manage that then Crimea is cut off from supplies apart from absolute suicide runs along the M14 highway.

 

[davek]

Meanwhile 'unamed US Security officials' say the opposite.

The US seem to be pushing for a withdrawal from the area around Bakmut and to concentrate forces for a push on Mariupol. Seems daft to me, let the Ukrainians fight as they see fit, especially if they wont give them.ATACAMS. they'll be in HIMARS and GMLRS range of the black sea in about another 20km or so.

If they can manage that then Crimea is cut off from supplies apart from absolute suicide runs along the M14 highway.

Stoltenberg is scum. He's determined to kill every last one of Ukraine's military to keep their mad organisation's geo-political ambitions on track.

A grotesque human being who hopefully gets his shortly.

 

[WA Toffee]

No country with nukes is going to have any part of its country annexed

It’s a non issue

You are probably right. It's a shame Russia and China seem to think having nukes means they can invade and claim other countries without recourse though

 

[Drico]

"Might is right" has long been accepted doctrine everywhere.

 

[Yarrgh]

Meanwhile 'unamed US Security officials' say the opposite.

The US seem to be pushing for a withdrawal from the area around Bakmut and to concentrate forces for a push on Mariupol. Seems daft to me, let the Ukrainians fight as they see fit, especially if they wont give them.ATACAMS. they'll be in HIMARS and GMLRS range of the black sea in about another 20km or so.

If they can manage that then Crimea is cut off from supplies apart from absolute suicide runs along the M14 highway.

Which is preferable Mauripol or Bakhmut if the plug is pulled tomorrow by the US and the Ukrainians have to go to the negotiating table?

I get the sense that the US is getting antsy. Progress is slow, Ukrainian losses too high and US popular support and political will to keep supporting the Ukrainians is on wain with any Republican win next year itching to pull the plug. Could Europe supply Ukraine alone in a prolonged war?

I sense the mood music 8s changing here too with recent coverage on high numbers of casualties and RF pushing Ukrainians along the northern part of the front.

Difficult decisions time potentially on the horizon.

 

[cooperman]

China and Russia exchanging nukes wouldnt be the worst thing to happen.

Aside from the millions of innocent people dying, both the lucky ones who'd be vaporised plus the others who'd die a horrific death.

I've met plenty of Russians, all dead sound. Lived in China for a bit, again great people.

It's the rulers of these countries that deserve a horrible end, not the people

 

[LostLegend]

If western analysts are to be believed, Russia has the majority of its ground forces on the various fronts with very little in the way of reserves.

Those better in the know on these things can correct me here, but I believe one of the main purposes of having reserve units behind the front line units is so that you can rotate those at the front line.

Meaning Russian troops might well be spending the entirety of their deployments on the front line with little to no respite.

No wonder then that there are increasing numbers refusing to go back, on top of everything the levels of combat fatigue must be off the scale.