Current Affairs Ukraine

[Spadge Vernacular]

The redrawing of the Sino-Russian border is something I think we can safely file under western wishful thinking

OK, so you are on a wind up

You rascal!

 

[WA Toffee]

I’m not sure there’s a context where the word “aboriginal” isn’t considered racist in 2023

Aboriginal isn't considered a racist word.

 

[WA Toffee]

The redrawing of the Sino-Russian border is something I think we can safely file under western wishful thinking

Do you think that is because China are scared of Russia or because China have no intention to take over other peoples lands? Or some other reason?

 

[Kev The Rat]

Do you think that is because China are scared of Russia or because China have no intention to take over other peoples lands? Or some other reason?

I've got no insight into the caclulations the Chinese are making, or whether they are actually interested in acquiring Russian territory.

They have no cultural/population ties to the area unlike with Taiwan for example.

What I do know is that any belief that a nuclear power can have its territory seized by a neighbouring state is laughable, so I doubt if they are considering it.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I've got no insight into the caclulations the Chinese are making, or whether they are actually interested in acquiring Russian territory.

They have no cultural/population ties to the area unlike with Taiwan for example.

What I do know is that any belief that a nuclear power can have its territory seized by a neighbouring state is laughable, so I doubt if they are considering it.

Such a shame the Ukr got rid of their nukes then, don't you think......

 

[Kev The Rat]

Such a shame the Ukr got rid of their nukes then, don't you think......

Interesting these lunatics had to be ordered to remove their nukes by Clinton back in 1994. They actually thought in their madness that they would be allowed to keep them on their territory. That shows the level of self-delusion they had that they believed they could carry the fight to Russia. And still have that delusion, obviously.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Interesting these lunatics had to be ordered to remove their nukes by Clinton back in 1994. They actually thought in their madness that they would be allowed to keep them on their territory. That shows the level of self-delusion they had that they believed they could carry the fight to Russia. And still have that delusion, obviously.

But, regarding your earlier point, the murderous Ruskies would not be so brave had they kept their nukes.

 

[Kev The Rat]

But, regarding your earlier point, the murderous Ruskies would not be so brave had they kept their nukes.

as I understand it the Russians had the codes/control for the nukes and therefore could only be fired from Russia anyway.

It’s basically a non issue elevated into one by pro-western/Ukrainian assets

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

as I understand it the Russians had the codes/control for the nukes and therefore could only be fired from Russia anyway.

It’s basically a non issue elevated into one by pro-western/Ukrainian assets

Reading up, it appears you are right (shock,horror). I stand by my point though that, had the UKEs their own nukes, bully boy putin would not be murdering their citizens.

 

[WA Toffee]

I've got no insight into the caclulations the Chinese are making, or whether they are actually interested in acquiring Russian territory.

They have no cultural/population ties to the area unlike with Taiwan for example.

What I do know is that any belief that a nuclear power can have its territory seized by a neighbouring state is laughable, so I doubt if they are considering it.

That usually would be two fair points, however they have just recently redrawn maps where they are laying claim to parts of India, which meets both of those criteria. I don't think they intend to just stop at drawing lines on a map either.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

This map issue might be Western fantasy if the West had drawn it but they didn't the Chinese government did.

I'm sure if the West did draw a map of China's borders it'd look like this.

 

[Kurt.]

I've got no insight

You don’t say …

 

[Kev The Rat]

This map issue might be Western fantasy if the West had drawn it but they didn't the Chinese government did.

I'm sure if the West did draw a map of China's borders it'd look like this.

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And exactly how are they going to acquire all this?

 

[Kev The Rat]

That usually would be two fair points, however they have just recently redrawn maps where they are laying claim to parts of India, which meets both of those criteria. I don't think they intend to just stop at drawing lines on a map either.

It would indeed be the wests dream for it to happen.

But not a prayer Russia voluntarily hands over its territory just because the Chinese have drawn things on some maps.

 

[WA Toffee]

It would indeed be the wests dream for it to happen.

But not a prayer Russia voluntarily hands over its territory because the Chinese have drawn things on some maps

I have no doubt they wouldn't just hand it over. Although given that Ukraine have managed to pretty much hold back Russia after the initial incursion, and have even been able to push Russia back in certain areas, I don't think Russia would be able to prevent China annexing part of Russia's East without resorting to all out nuclear war.

Let's hope that China doesn't really want to take a large part of Russia