Current Affairs Ukraine

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Tennessee Blue Mike said:
www.forbes.com

It’s Possible 270,000 Russians Have Been Killed Or Wounded In Ukraine

At least 200,000. As many as 270,000. That’s how many Russian troops have died, been wounded or gone missing in the first 11 months of Russia’s war in Ukraine, according to experts.
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Don't spill your vodka laughing so hard at this. More than both Chechia Wars put together. Losing a generation of talent and for what to follow crazy authority figures that don't know what they are doing.
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No wonder the Ukranians are running out of bullets.
 
Tennessee Blue Mike said:
Putin is mad and tired. He knows the Ukrainian situation is balls up. I can see tactical nuclear weapons being used as a temper tantrum then it gets progressively worse. Can't see anyone trending him any other way. A loner that XI doesn't know what to do with either. A liability to himself and everyone else. Captain Mainwaring said it best "Stupid Man(Boy)"
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Thankfully Putin cant order a nuclear strike by himself. There is a similar layer of protocol as the UK and US. The fact that he is at the weakest he's ever been would mean that the other 5 or 6 checks and balances would likely deny him a launch.

I think I heard a story a while ago that they put an extra layer on Putin so he has no access to the nuclear briefcase when he's drunk. Literally a GRU officer who has to put in a code when Putin is drinking or something.
 
Tennessee Blue Mike said:
Poland is on par to be the most powerful force from NATO in the coming years. They are all in. Russia trying to overcome them will be no small feat.
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They are, but that is the wrong way to go about it.

The EU as a whole have to be able to militarily stand alone as early as the end of 2024, without NATO. Strong contingents from Poland, France, Greece, Sweden, Finland and the rest are going to be parts of that obviously but there really has to be a realistic unified force by that stage, one that can't be split up by national (political, really) interests and one where every constituent state plays a proper role (as opposed to letting "their" military rust, cut back on spending etc). That means much closer defence partnership, rebuilding defence industrial capacity and all the rest.
 
dublinbluenose said:
Thankfully Putin cant order a nuclear strike by himself. There is a similar layer of protocol as the UK and US. The fact that he is at the weakest he's ever been would mean that the other 5 or 6 checks and balances would likely deny him a launch.

I think I heard a story a while ago that they put an extra layer on Putin so he has no access to the nuclear briefcase when he's drunk. Literally a GRU officer who has to put in a code when Putin is drinking or something.
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Good point. At least they have someone with some intelligence to have a protocol at all.
 
dublinbluenose said:
Thankfully Putin cant order a nuclear strike by himself. There is a similar layer of protocol as the UK and US. The fact that he is at the weakest he's ever been would mean that the other 5 or 6 checks and balances would likely deny him a launch.

I think I heard a story a while ago that they put an extra layer on Putin so he has no access to the nuclear briefcase when he's drunk. Literally a GRU officer who has to put in a code when Putin is drinking or something.
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yeah that story is almost 100% certain to be complete nonsense
 
tsubaki said:
They are, but that is the wrong way to go about it.

The EU as a whole have to be able to militarily stand alone as early as the end of 2024, without NATO. Strong contingents from Poland, France, Greece, Sweden, Finland and the rest are going to be parts of that obviously but there really has to be a realistic unified force by that stage, one that can't be split up by national (political, really) interests and one where every constituent state plays a proper role (as opposed to letting "their" military rust, cut back on spending etc). That means much closer defence partnership, rebuilding defence industrial capacity and all the rest.
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Yes, I am no means a warmonger, but I worry about the British Army they can not rely on technology alone or their brethren to the West. More bodies are needed to protect our shores. Everyone thinks it's all about missiles and such but an insurgence needs to met just like it has always been from the Vikings on. We have a body of water perhaps has some protection but that can be navigated quite easily in this day and time.
 
tsubaki said:
They are, but that is the wrong way to go about it.

The EU as a whole have to be able to militarily stand alone as early as the end of 2024, without NATO. Strong contingents from Poland, France, Greece, Sweden, Finland and the rest are going to be parts of that obviously but there really has to be a realistic unified force by that stage, one that can't be split up by national (political, really) interests and one where every constituent state plays a proper role (as opposed to letting "their" military rust, cut back on spending etc). That means much closer defence partnership, rebuilding defence industrial capacity and all the rest.
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And this ridiculous notion of an Eu army without NATO is one reason why we left the EU……
 
tsubaki said:
yes pete, and hasn't the world been a shiny happy place ever since
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You live in a dreamworld. How did Germany and France initially react to the Russian invasion, even now Germany just wants a quick end so that it can trade with Russia again. Macron did his grandstanding bit, Italy and Spain have been invisible, Hungary would join with Putin given half a chance to get cheap oil and gas, with only the likes of Poland standing up for what is right. Without the USA and UK, Ukraine would already have been taken over, then it’s on to the next country. Your belief in the EU being able to make a decision militarily is naive in the extreme………
 
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