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IMO the only play now is NATO has to go all in and move into Ukraine as a supportive ally.

Forget playing by the rules. Russia isn't and they're expecting us too.

They won't push the button if we're there.
They might if we're not and they're losing.
There is logic to this IMO, dangerous logic but leaving the monster to do as it wants feels like a greater danger.
 
Latest from Rybar on Lyman.

The situation in the Limansky direction
as of 20.00 September 30, 2022

After the withdrawal from Drobyshevo and Yampol , the defense of the RF Armed Forces was built along the outskirts of the Liman and the buffer zone around the Liman - Zarechnoye - Torskoye road . The Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to completely block the corridor, but the Russian troops have so far successfully repulsed the strikes.

According to preliminary estimates, at least 6,000 Ukrainian servicemen and foreign mercenaries are involved in the attack on Liman. Armored groups are trying to advance from Drobyshevo , Stavok, Dibrovo and Yampol towards Liman itself .

From TorskoyThe RF Armed Forces deployed reinforcements, including artillery, MLRS and armored vehicles. Near Yampol and to the north of the Liman there are oncoming maneuver battles.

To the north of Zarechny , the Ukrainian military, with the support of armored vehicles, tried to break under the dam across the Zherebets River to Terny, but were driven out from there by the approaching units of the RF Armed Forces and withdrew to the western bank in Ivanovka .

In order to strengthen the onslaught of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, units are hastily transferred from near Seversk and Soledar , reserves from Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. They have to partly expose the Soledar direction, where units of the Wagner PMC, NM LPR and DPR are advancing.

The situation remains extremely tense, however, for now, the RF Armed Forces still control Liman and hold back the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. If the allied forces manage to hold back the onslaught, defend the city and inflict heavy losses on the attacking Ukrainian forces, then the Russian troops will actually seize the initiative. In this case, the situation at the front can change dramatically.
Source: @rybar
 
Britain offers more materiel for Ukraine.

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Interesting how many people regularly posting on this thread actually listened to the full Putin speech today (the subtitled one in English is very accurate compared to the voice over translation) and how many will just go off what they read quoted by the press...
 


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A frustrating month after the Istanbul meeting, in an April 21 interview, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Turkey did not think the war would last long after the talks. But it did, and Cavusoglu charged that "There are countries within NATO who want the war to continue." He said that “following the NATO foreign ministers’ meeting, it was the impression that…there are those within the NATO member states that want the war to continue, let the war continue and Russia get weaker.”

Cavusoglu’s insistence that a settlement was within reach seems to have been confirmed by a September Foreign Affairs article by Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. In the article, Hill and Stent say that "According to multiple former senior U.S. officials we spoke with, in April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement: Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries."
 
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