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Seems that this is being acted upon.


Now being reported

 
Bravo. I reckon you’ve earned your bag of spuds today comrade.

What's with the comrade thing btw, you do know that Putin is actually very right wing politically, so am I a Putin lover or a communist?

Or do you still equate every Russian with being a communist in some weird MaCrthy era paranoia you have going on inside your 'brain'
 
Agree totally about the Russian propoganda effectively poisoning the information well so they now it's easy to just assume everything is propoganda that they say mate.

But I also think in my lifetime this is the most controlled media blitz we have ever seen, never to this extent seen even close to the acceptance of everything said by one side in a conflict being accepted without question, and literally reported as fact on mass. I know Russian media is controlled - but right now I'm seeing very little difference in the way the western MSM is reporting to that.

Long gone are the days when we had the likes of a young John Pilger writing for the daily mirror.
But isn’t the fact that the Izyum story has been pulled by Reuters and the Telegraph comments indicate it isn’t being accepted without question?

The Ukrainians made a statement, the news services reported that statement and then when they got their own reporters there they did their own investigations and had questions and have reported on those questions.

There is an argument that you shouldn’t report anything either side says until you have verified it yourself but that is not the way ”news” generally works - the news services also report when the Russians say there have been attacks on civilians too eg


I obviously don’t have much access to Russian media to make comparisons if in similar situation they would retract the story/would not report it in the first place but the snippets of tv I have seen aren’t very suggestive they would.
 
Seems that this is being acted upon.


Now being reported


Pretty much everyone I know who used to travel to Europe on holiday has already just switched to Turkey or places like Georgia and Armenia.

Given Incidents like this I'm not surprised either.


You probably read the original story covered by pretty much all the Ukraine news outlets and commented on by government spokes people




- strangely besides for one french paper can't see the story having been reported as to what actually happened, certainly no comment from the people who ran the story initially
 
What's with the comrade thing btw, you do know that Putin is actually very right wing politically, so am I a Putin lover or a communist?

Or do you still equate every Russian with being a communist in some weird MaCrthy era paranoia you have going on inside your 'brain'
Neither - you’re simply an apologist for the actions of Putin’s rampaging gang of orcs in Ukraine.
 
Wanted to stay clear of this toxic poison dwarf of a theead - but Christ, you're actually jerking yourself off at the prospect of two other conflicts breaking out which will cause a massive loss of lives, what an utter cretinous human you are.

Go on lad, mention orcs again, like you only ever did when I complained about it being massively offensive.

Support Ukraine - fair enough, wanking off at other young kids dying, sorry, but you're utter scum lad.
Orcs
 
But isn’t the fact that the Izyum story has been pulled by Reuters and the Telegraph comments indicate it isn’t being accepted without question?

The Ukrainians made a statement, the news services reported that statement and then when they got their own reporters there they did their own investigations and had questions and have reported on those questions.

There is an argument that you shouldn’t report anything either side says until you have verified it yourself but that is not the way ”news” generally works - the news services also report when the Russians say there have been attacks on civilians too eg


I obviously don’t have much access to Russian media to make comparisons if in similar situation they would retract the story/would not report it in the first place but the snippets of tv I have seen aren’t very suggestive they would.
I'd like to hope that it's a signal that reporters will actually start doing what they used to do which is fact checking from independant sources LL, but I'm doubtful that will happen.

Russian media is full of rubbish, they'll pull stories sometimes when the facts show it as such - by no means always though and it's rare even in that case.

In articles based on at best one source or questionable factual information there's a very marked difference though,title will normally be as an example "Ukraine kills 200 Russian soldiers" followed by a statement buried in the article body that the source is a ua press release stating this.

A Russian story of f exactly the same subject would be "Lavrov 'claims' 200 Ukranians killed in a rattled press conference '

The tone of the headline paints already the story for the reader of which is true then the content normally seals the deal in it's structure and 'tone'
 
What's with the comrade thing btw, you do know that Putin is actually very right wing politically, so am I a Putin lover or a communist?

Or do you still equate every Russian with being a communist in some weird MaCrthy era paranoia you have going on inside your 'brain'
It's just the fall back position for the dimwitted,if you aren't continually posting Slava Ukraine or video of drone strikes ( on unidentifiable targets) you must be a Putin acolyte. I'm still waiting for the vaulting of the members who support the invasion. But not holding my breath.
 
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