Current Affairs Ukraine

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[tsubaki]

It is just a lever to put pressure on Putins regime via those in the population upset at the action. Not that he cares about anyone but himself and his cronies.

It really isn't - if anything, its more useful to Putin because it associates the Russian population with him. People are not going to overthrow Putin because they can't go to Italy or the South of France; they might if they go to those places and realise what they are being told is lies.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

It really isn't - if anything, its more useful to Putin because it associates the Russian population with him. People are not going to overthrow Putin because they can't go to Italy or the South of France; they might if they go to those places and realise what they are being told is lies.

It definetely is, whether it has any traction though is highly unlikely.

 

[davids]

Ukraine's drone strike videos are usually much clearer than Russias tbf.

I remember the much liked one on social media of the tank turret flying into the air. No way to tell whose it was, especially as most of Russian and Ukrainian tanks were made in the same factory in the Ukraine. Just find it an odd part of the human condition that anyone can take pleasure out of the death of another.

 

[davids]

It is a terrible idea, and people are right to oppose it - blaming populations for the actions of their leaders (especially when their leaders do what they have been doing) is absolutely wrong.

Also the Baltic nations (especially Lithuania) really need to either step up their contributions to their defence massively or take a much less active role in terms of creating problems. Yes, they are likely to be in the front line if this seriously goes wrong but that doesn't give them carte blanche to repeatedly escalate things thinking that the rest will have their backs come whatever. They have every right to refuse to issue visas themselves and close their borders, but not to make decisions on behalf of the rest.

Given the last six months and the state of Russia's army the Baltic States aren't in any danger before the middle of this century (at the very least)

 

[tsubaki]

It definetely is, whether it has any traction though is highly unlikely.

They might think it is, but it isn't. In fact I'd wager a small sum of money on that video of the drunk Russian bint causing more annoyance to the Russian population than banning all of them from the EU would.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

All very interesting - but a few small holes in your logic, more and more countries including sone eu ones are already paying for energy in part in - Rubles, China, India, and now Turkey are also.

I think you missed the point. Yes those countries are paying for oil in Rubles but those payments are made in local currency converted to Rubles, subject to currency exchange rates. Therefore if the Ruble is high like it is now then you’re getting less Rubles fed back into your banking system causing your economy to shrink.

Couple that with the decline in your manufacturing industries such as airlines and cars (production down 97%) and you can see that the longer term outlook for the Russian economy is poor.

In answer to your question: I don’t believe Russia had been one step ahead of the west with its fiscal planning response to sanctions. Russia implemented emergency measures in order to stabilise the Ruble and got lucky with the global commodity price rises for oil and gas. However the high-flying Ruble is now ironically Russias biggest threat to its own economy.

By implementing those extreme measures Russia let the genie out of the bottle and there’s now no way to get him back in.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I remember the much liked one on social media of the tank turret flying into the air. No way to tell whose it was, especially as most of Russian and Ukrainian tanks were made in the same factory in the Ukraine. Just find it an odd part of the human condition that anyone can take pleasure out of the death of another.

It wouldn’t be happening if your man had kept his troops at home

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Imagine supporting the situation causing families to have to face up to this reality. Lovely to see this lad and dad back together, even though they should not be seperated.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Russia needs more like her

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[tsubaki]

hope they are getting comprehensive intel from the yank because that could easily be a trap (lure them over the river, fight them to a standstill beyond the river and then push them back against the river with very limited options to cross)

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

NATO will be all over that if it is indeed their most advanced tank.