davids
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They have a LinkedIn group for that,they share acronyms and the best places paschal candles with the image of Zelensky can be bought.
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roydo
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Just as a reminder, we lightly moderate this part of the forum. We aint that heavy anywhere really.
Serious personal abuse we would not tolerate. But we are a team of guys and gals who are here cos we are Everton fans, first and foremost, not geo experts on the world. We simply cannot pass a judgement whether a term one poster finds offensive, and others may dont think so, is a reason to come down on one side or the other. Cos frankly, we dont know.
As a relevant example, in 2002/3, the England rugby team, that went on to win the WC, were branded, quite publicly by Kiwi and Oz press as "White orcs on steroids". That was reported back in the UK. Well, England.
Hope that makes sense.
Serious personal abuse we would not tolerate. But we are a team of guys and gals who are here cos we are Everton fans, first and foremost, not geo experts on the world. We simply cannot pass a judgement whether a term one poster finds offensive, and others may dont think so, is a reason to come down on one side or the other. Cos frankly, we dont know.
As a relevant example, in 2002/3, the England rugby team, that went on to win the WC, were branded, quite publicly by Kiwi and Oz press as "White orcs on steroids". That was reported back in the UK. Well, England.
Hope that makes sense.
You’re making the mistake of directly relating the strong Ruble against an increasingly poor Russian economy that’s dependent solely on the revenue gained from exporting oil and gas.
The Ruble is artificially high due to govt capital controls introduced to counter the effects of sanctions (interest rate hikes, frozen foreign accounts etc).
However your economy is suffering with manufacturing for example down 97%. Also it should be noted that oil sector gets its money in foreign exchange but pays taxes in local currency in rubles. So as the exchange rate gets stronger, it means fewer rubles go into the budget. Ergo your budget/economy begin to shrink.
The strong Ruble is simultaneously damaging efforts to sell Russian goods overseas. When the ruble is strong, those goods become more expensive. And that makes it a lot harder for it to build new markets.
If your economy is contracting, basically collapsing - if nobody wants to trade with you, there is little to celebrate there. You might have a strong currency at the moment, but if anything, it's damaging you long term.
So enjoy your spuds for now, as it could be a mouldy cabbage next week.
devogue
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Ukraine's drone strike videos are usually much clearer than Russias tbf.
Spadge Vernacular
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Yale produced an interesting study on the Russian economic pathway.
roydo
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Heres me thinking I was subtle.
Spadge Vernacular
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I am in here fairly regularly in here and haven't seen anyone pointing serious personal abuse at any posters, mate.
The orc term is being used by some as a label for the Russian troops committing mass murder, rape etc against Ukrainian civilians. Seems a fair description considering their actions.
No one has called @bluestevon wife or mother in law an Orc, not that I have seen.
bluestevon
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All very interesting - but a few small holes in your logic, more and more countries including sone eu ones are already paying for energy in part in - Rubles, China, India, and now Turkey are also.
The Russians where also given fir so evsrrange reason by Biden a year to prepare as he said exactly what would happen to Putin in a truly braindead moment, but then again this us the sane Biden who declared in early March that the ruble is now rubble, only to see it rebound and now be stronger v the dollar than it was pre war. Way to go sleepy Joe.
Do you never think maybe the Russians have been one step ahead (at least) in terms of the economic side from day one in this, almost like they had a plan and the ones constantly reacting are the eu/us?
Sanctions will break the ruble and collapse the economy - they didn't.
Increase sanctions that'll do it - they didn't.
Kick them out of swift - Russia rode that with minimal impact and in fact just said ok want energy pay in rubles - so in effect it strengthened them.
Next step ban coal - price goes up Russia switches sakes to the east.
Ban oil - price rises meaning they now have to sell less to maje more - again sakes switched to the east - btw you know the refineries in the US which can only refine Venezuelan and Russian oil? How come they're still refining - wonder where that oil they're buying from third party countries come from?
Biden flies to the Saudis and fist bumps a man he called a pariah in his election speeches begging and prostituting himself to get them to pump more oil, the Saudis shrugged and said they'd discuss the idea at the next OPEC+1 meeting (guess who the +1 is in that meeting - yup Russia)
Ok let's now price fix gas - boom that'll do it, oh wait the eu can't actually agree on it.
Now winter is coming and the EU are facing a real problem mate.
How many European leaders have already been booted out since February - how many will still be there come Spring? Biden also certain to lose the house this year in those elections, fundamentally weakening his power.
I'll enjoy my mouldy cabbage thanks, although as the world's biggest fertilizer exporter not sure exactly why it's be mouldy, least I'll have the ability to cook it without taking out a second mortgage to pay for the cost of doing so.
Spadge Vernacular
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Seems some rascals have been painting the Russian Nazi inspired Z sign symbol around Barcelona, including on a Ukrainian refugee centre.
That there is a bias in tone in a lot of the reporting when covering similar stories I’d agree is a fair criticism, it was the saying there was no questioning at all or that the media was the same as Russian that I felt was an incorrect statement.
Spadge Vernacular
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@Mutzo NutzoYale produced an interesting study on the Russian economic pathway.
Here is a wider summary of Russias outlook and interview with the Yale economists behind the forecasts linked.
Russia faces 'economic oblivion' despite claims of short-term resilience, economists say
Russia is facing "economic oblivion" in the long term as a result of international sanctions and the flight of businesses, several economists have said.
tsubaki
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Seems that this is being acted upon.
EU ministers to study call for ban on Russian tourists | Euractiv
EU foreign ministers are to discuss this week an appeal led by Ukraine to ban Russian tourists from visiting Europe. The idea, to be studied in a two-day meeting starting Tuesday (30 August) in Prague, has divided EU nationswww.euractiv.com
Now being reported
Documents from Russian tourists not accepted in 9 European countries - ATOR
At the same time, some countries continue to issue visas to Russianstass.com
It is a terrible idea, and people are right to oppose it - blaming populations for the actions of their leaders (especially when their leaders do what they have been doing) is absolutely wrong.
Also the Baltic nations (especially Lithuania) really need to either step up their contributions to their defence massively or take a much less active role in terms of creating problems. Yes, they are likely to be in the front line if this seriously goes wrong but that doesn't give them carte blanche to repeatedly escalate things thinking that the rest will have their backs come whatever. They have every right to refuse to issue visas themselves and close their borders, but not to make decisions on behalf of the rest.
Spadge Vernacular
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It is just a lever to put pressure on Putins regime via those in the population upset at the action. Not that he cares about anyone but himself and his cronies.
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