Current Affairs The Far Right

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Enjoying the match. But even in the chat the far-right can't keep their shitty thoughts to themselves. In the YouTube stream chat, I saw a giant Swastika and someone say, "White people built the modern world you stupid c---."
 
One non-white take on recent events:


"Viewing the horror with shock but not surprise, it felt to me like the country has perhaps reached a turning point; maybe, I thought, this will be the thing that drives systemic change, the thing that finally puts institutional racism front and center in our culture.

And then, like clockwork, it happened: the “good white people” showed up. They announced their arrival with calls for kindness and colorblind humanity, and I, as a person of color, realized this may not be a turning point at all.

There have been many takes on the events in Charlottesville, but none more frustrating than “good white people” exclaiming that "This Is Not America," epitomized by the hashtag #ThisIsNotUs. Since being publicized on Saturday by Lady Gaga as a hashtag to be used "to tweet positive messages," #ThisIsNotUs has become the source of some controversy. On Twitter and Facebook, the hashtag, initially used by many white people to proclaim that the white supremacist violence at Charlottesville did not reflect their views, is now filled with people of color calling out the issues they have with the idea that white supremacist terrorism is "not us," and rightfully so — as the criticisms below and beyond point out, this is very much us; the violence at Charlottesville is America as it has always been."
 
I disagree very much on antifa and would suggest that those opposed to trump find an actual credible challenger this time so we don't get another 4 years. That would be good for America and all of us. He won democratically. That's not something to be proud of. But he will only be defeated democratically. So violence is unacceptable.
Um..., didn't he lose democratically? - the credible challenger got the most votes.
 
Percieved? Could you expand on that? Do you believe there is a calm egalitarian friendship in that society?

Yes perceived. No i do not. I also do not think Airport locations/pollution and climate change are racist either which BLM members have claimed nor do i think planet of the apes is racist and so on... I do not trust for a second the judgement of a group whom believe you cannot be racist to white people and believe anything and everything is racist. That is why i used perceived, though of course actuall racism against black people (And all races) certaintly does exist
 
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BLM is a group which protests against violence and ill-treatment of black people.

Please find some evidence to back up your claim that they are racist supremacists.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting.html

Specifically executing white police officers ^

"Black only meetings"

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/04/11/opinion-black-lives-matter-meetings/

Racism is rampant upon nearly every member i have encountered (Hundreds on twitter alone) "EFF WYPIPO" "Beat that cracker" and general hatred and sadism towards white people. Much of their vocal supporters are extreme and racist
 
One non-white take on recent events:


"Viewing the horror with shock but not surprise, it felt to me like the country has perhaps reached a turning point; maybe, I thought, this will be the thing that drives systemic change, the thing that finally puts institutional racism front and center in our culture.

And then, like clockwork, it happened: the “good white people” showed up. They announced their arrival with calls for kindness and colorblind humanity, and I, as a person of color, realized this may not be a turning point at all.

There have been many takes on the events in Charlottesville, but none more frustrating than “good white people” exclaiming that "This Is Not America," epitomized by the hashtag #ThisIsNotUs. Since being publicized on Saturday by Lady Gaga as a hashtag to be used "to tweet positive messages," #ThisIsNotUs has become the source of some controversy. On Twitter and Facebook, the hashtag, initially used by many white people to proclaim that the white supremacist violence at Charlottesville did not reflect their views, is now filled with people of color calling out the issues they have with the idea that white supremacist terrorism is "not us," and rightfully so — as the criticisms below and beyond point out, this is very much us; the violence at Charlottesville is America as it has always been."

I wonder if this person thinks all Muslims are to be blamed after a muslim terror attack? I wonder

You cannot hold people responsible for other peoples actions because they have the same skin colour, religion etc. Insane
 
I wonder if this person thinks all Muslims are to be blamed after a muslim terror attack? I wonder

You cannot hold people responsible for other peoples actions because they have the same skin colour, religion etc. Insane

You do come across as someone who only looks at the veneer of a situation. I get exactly what that person means. In any given situation there will be a level of 'generalisation', society in general, the 'percieved' society, because we now live in a soundbite world where the manipulation of information is the essence to what is percieved or 'real' and therefore affects the public psyche and interpretation of any given situation. There is always another side, another angle, but we have to search for that, it won't be presented to us.
Chomsky is worth reading to understand the media affect of the public, it goes deeper than them and us.
 
People denouncing communism or socialism when they don't even know what they entail. When was the last time someone from a left wing organisation did something like drive a car into a group of people. Unbelievable rhetoric going round at the minute

Maybe not the specific act of taking a car and ramming it into people, but in this data from 2015, Communist organisations commited the most terrorist attacks after the Islamist ones (globally).

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257526.htm

581 in total. Obviously the nature of the terrorist threat differers from country to country, but go tell the Indians who live in the area where the Maoist's roam that people sympathetic to communism can't do horrible things too.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting.html

Specifically executing white police officers ^

"Black only meetings"

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/04/11/opinion-black-lives-matter-meetings/

Racism is rampant upon nearly every member i have encountered (Hundreds on twitter alone) "EFF WYPIPO" "Beat that cracker" and general hatred and sadism towards white people. Much of their vocal supporters are extreme and racist

The first incident was not a BLM issue. The organisation did not condone this, it was a lone man with clear issues.

You clearly didn't read your second link. It actually states;

"Just as it isn’t sexist for women to ask men to respect their privacy during sensitive discussions, it’s not racist for black activists to request that they are allowed separate space to connect."

Poor evidence to convince anyone that BLM are race supremacists. They aren't.
 
You do come across as someone who only looks at the veneer of a situation. I get exactly what that person means. In any given situation there will be a level of 'generalisation', society in general, the 'percieved' society, because we now live in a soundbite world where the manipulation of information is the essence to what is percieved or 'real' and therefore affects the public psyche and interpretation of any given situation. There is always another side, another angle, but we have to search for that, it won't be presented to us.
Chomsky is worth reading to understand the media affect of the public, it goes deeper than them and us.

Pretty interesting post I think I understand what you are saying
 
The first incident was not a BLM issue. The organisation did not condone this, it was a lone man with clear issues.

You clearly didn't read your second link. It actually states;

"Just as it isn’t sexist for women to ask men to respect their privacy during sensitive discussions, it’s not racist for black activists to request that they are allowed separate space to connect."

Poor evidence to convince anyone that BLM are race supremacists. They aren't.

Just because an organisation doesn't explicitly condone something doesn't mean that it's not widely supported amongst it's wider base. Why is that? Maybe I am being unfair to the upper echelons of BLM hierachy with this but I see so much hate and racism on Twitter from BLM supporters I have to question the movement

I did read the link. I wholly disagree with the commentators statement that women only meetings are not sexist, black only meetings are not racist etc - If the justification for black only meetings is to feel safe from white Allies that is racist.

If you are struggling with this just flip the situations around... Men wanting women banned from golf clubs cos they make them uncomfortable and white guys not wanting blacks in their neighbourhood because they feel unsafe .
 
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