Succession Planning - Managerial Wishlist

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[willo30]

Even majority of posters who are the most Loyal to Moyes would acknowledge that his team selections this year have been consistently pretty baffling.

Stuff with young players is maybe more debatable, but O'Brien at right back, Armstrong on the wing, KDH at 10, persisting with Gana and Keane - most people agree that these things are not really working.

I agree on match day it doesn't seem to work but he must see it working in training is what I am saying.
We don't know how players are training. They could be lazy trainers but give all on a match day. Dele was like this for spurs and Jose refused to pick him because of it, Poch knew it and still picked him.
As I say we don't see them training so can't really knock Moyes for his selection. Subs on the other hand he should be better at but then again he's seen them in training and will know if they can impact the game or not.

 

[davek]

I'm not sure. It just feels like we've learnt nothing from past appointments.

He looks good but we've been here before.

It's a simple calculation to make for me:

1/ stay with Moyes and we'll be safe but win nothing and enjoy only hard fought wins now and then

2/ employ a manager who is a better coach than Moyes who can get us playing football and see how far that takes us

I dont fear change, tbh. Not in a league that's seen it's quality levels plummet in the last 5 years or so.


Moyes might have been exactly what we needed first time round, but now he's not fit for purpose - if our purpose is to crack on with a new stadium and ownership set up.

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

We have clearly tried flavour-of-the-month-style managers:
Silva
Koeman
Martinez
Walker

We have tried solid old managers with no ceiling:

Benitez
Fat Sam
Dyche
Moyes
Smith

Carlo was a one off.

The last time we were successful as a team was when we had former players as managers:

Royle
Kendall
Harvey

SO based on the above I think we should start planning now for time under:
Ferguson
Baines
Coleman

 

[willo30]

We have clearly tried flavour-of-the-month-style managers:
Silva
Koeman
Martinez
Walker

We have tried solid old managers with no ceiling:

Benitez
Fat Sam
Dyche
Moyes
Smith

Carlo was a one off.

The last time we were successful as a team was when we had former players as managers:

Royle
Kendall
Harvey

SO based on the above I think we should start planning now for time under:
Ferguson
Baines
Coleman

Baines is supposed to highly thought of by the club. But then I also heard he is off in the summer.

 

[Swartzy]

Baines is supposed to highly thought of by the club. But then I also heard he is off in the summer.

He would definitely address the Fb situation

 

[MACCA75]

We have clearly tried flavour-of-the-month-style managers:
Silva
Koeman
Martinez
Walker

We have tried solid old managers with no ceiling:

Benitez
Fat Sam
Dyche
Moyes
Smith

Carlo was a one off.

The last time we were successful as a team was when we had former players as managers:

Royle
Kendall
Harvey

SO based on the above I think we should start planning now for time under:
Ferguson
Baines
Coleman

I mean Harvey was a disaster.

Can only assume you are joking about Dunc. Catastrophic manager.

 

[Efcjake]

It's a simple calculation to make for me:

1/ stay with Moyes and we'll be safe but win nothing and enjoy only hard fought wins now and then

2/ employ a manager who is a better coach than Moyes who can get us playing football and see how far that takes us

I dont fear change, tbh. Not in a league that's seen it's quality levels plummet in the last 5 years or so.


Moyes might have been exactly what we needed first time round, but now he's not fit for purpose - if our purpose is to crack on with a new stadium and ownership set up.

I feel like we tried that and didn't really get the results you expected.

 

[davek]

I feel like we tried that and didn't really get the results you expected.

In a period of our history where it could have proven perilous to our PL status...but this is not then.

We are in a fundamentally different situation now in this new stadium and with these new owners...and in a PL where standards have plummeted.

 

[Efcjake]

In a period of our history where it could have proven perilous to our PL status...but this is not then.

We are in a fundamentally different situation now in this new stadium and with these new owners...and in a PL where standards have plummeted.

And yet with over a decade to find a manager better than David Moyes... We didn't.

 

[blue61]

We have clearly tried flavour-of-the-month-style managers:
Silva
Koeman
Martinez
Walker

We have tried solid old managers with no ceiling:

Benitez
Fat Sam
Dyche
Moyes
Smith

Carlo was a one off.

The last time we were successful as a team was when we had former players as managers:

Royle
Kendall
Harvey

SO based on the above I think we should start planning now for time under:
Ferguson
Baines
Coleman

No thanks.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

How do we know we aren't playing our best team week in week out?
Moyes sees them every day in training yet we think we can pick the team better than him.

Why does a managerial novice like Moyes know?!

 

[BackRow PE6]

In a period of our history where it could have proven perilous to our PL status...but this is not then.

We are in a fundamentally different situation now in this new stadium and with these new owners...and in a PL where standards have plummeted.

It’s a reasonable point that everything from Moyes Mk1 and beyond came with under BK with little to no budget or under Moshiri with little to no strategy.

Seemingly under TFG we now have both budget and strategy so the conditions should be right for a progressive manager to come in and build.

Risks attached to everything, but if TFG are willing to back a new manager with a decent kitty, and given they have bad experiences at Roma to learn from, I’m all for them making a change this summer

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

In a period of our history where it could have proven perilous to our PL status...but this is not then.

We are in a fundamentally different situation now in this new stadium and with these new owners...and in a PL where standards have plummeted.

It’s not fundamentally different. The club had its biggest chance early with Moshiri, but blew it.

Turns out the Premier League is actually quite hard!

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

It’s a reasonable point that everything from Moyes Mk1 and beyond came with under BK with little to no budget or under Moshiri with little to no strategy.

Seemingly under TFG we now have both budget and strategy so the conditions should be right for a progressive manager to come in and build.

Risks attached to everything, but if TFG are willing to back a new manager with a decent kitty, and given they have bad experiences at Roma to learn from, I’m all for them making a change this summer

There was a strategy under Moshiri. He just chose to exert his authority when it suited him based on results.

And what makes you think we “have budget” under the new owners? They are businessmen who will invest as much as they think is sensible. They are in it to make money, not to be Abramovic.