MOYES'S DISGUST

[Little Ralphy]

Probably before the Cup Final but that final really hit it all home for me and I think that is where his own intentions towards the club/job changed, from the Club's long term future to preserving his own reputation.

I was starting to draft a list of all the things since that moment to support the claim, but it was just too much. To say I wanted rid of the man for the last 3-4 years is an understatement.

Let's concentrate on the positives, we finally have a team with a bit of pace and attacking flair, and one which welcomes expectation. As well as a manager who appears to embrace the history and traditions of the club. Wednesday was the first time in many years that people were actually positive about going to OT and coming away with a result. You always have a chance if you try to win, but you don't have a hope if you play to 'just get out of there alive'. ginger ********.

 

[swisso]

“I knew in myself I was going to retire, so I’m thinking If he signed a contract it would be more difficult for us.

“I said to him you’ve had ten years there that’s long enough, you’ll get a bigger club.

“I kept phoning him to make sure he wasn’t going to sign a new contract.

“We had to wait till the league was decided, once the league was decided I got David over to the house and I think he thought we were going to talk about his contract again, but I said look I want you to take over.”

I suppose those quotes fit in with the "4 weeks before the end of the season" line from Moyes. United did finish 11 points clear so would have known 3-4 weeks before the end that the title was in the bag.

However, Moyes is a smart man, when Ferguson rings you often telling you not to sign a contract at Everton, you'd be utterly daft not to read between the lines. He knew he was going to United well before the "4 weeks" that he speaks of.

 

[blaggerblue]

Im a little worried we will look bitter and ungrateful to the rest of the footy world. After all he did banish those awful relegation battles.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Here's one for the media types, if any are reading this.

You continue to tell us how ungrateful we are, and that we should remember 'what he did for us'. Fine that's all well and good, but let's use an analogy.

Say you're married to someone for 11 years. You have your ups and downs, but essentially you're happy. Then after 11 years, your partner says, "Look, this isn't working anymore, we need to split up, and besides I've found someone else". You'd be a bit miffed, but as you had kids with them, for the sake of the kids, you split amicably. Besides, you'd also had your doubts about the marriage in the latter years anyway. They leave, and you find someone else too. Then your ex starts marking patronising, belittling remarks. Then they start trying to get extra custody of the kids, beyond what they'd agreed initially. Then you find out that actually, they'd been cheating on you with this other person for months and months before they actually split up with you, so they'd been stringing you along on lies.

Wouldn't you be entitled to be rather annoyed with them, regardless of the 10 years of generally happy marriage before all that started?

 

[4737carlin]

Kenright has been telling lies for longer than Moyes but continues to escape the treatment Moyes got last Wednesday.

To be fair Moyes wouldn't have a bad word said about Kenright, for 11 years at any opportunity he told us what a great chairmen he was, how he had a great working relationship with him...etc how he gave him everything he wanted... etc

Moyes deserved what he got on Wednesday and a hell of a lot more when he shows his face next time

 

[BoysInBlue]

Im a little worried we will look bitter and ungrateful to the rest of the footy world. After all he did banish those awful relegation battles.

Who cares? We won't win a media & PR battle with Man Utd, even if we are in the right.

 

[TheFinnFan]

"I'll see where we are after Christmas before I sign a new deal" - Moyes, Nov 2012

"I'll see where we are in March before signing a new deal" - Moyes, Jan 2013

"I'll see where we are at the end of the season before signing a new deal" - Moyes, March 2013

"I only knew about the Utd job 4 weeks before I took it" - Moyes, said several times, most recently 2 days ago.

"I met David at my house at Christmas 2012 and told him 'You're my successor, you're the next Man Utd manager" - Alex Ferguson in his book.

Lies, lies, lies.

Then the ridiculous bids, the 'Everton shouldn't be holding back the careers of Fellaini & Baines' quote, the 'I know how Everton works'; 'I always told the players they didn't need a manager'; 'I signed most of the players', 'He's doing a good job carrying it on...' quotes.

Pretty much all of that, Bally.

The media fails to realise, he wasn't just booed because he left and because he made **** bids. It's his whole demeanour and the lies he told (and still tells), and the fact he left without us getting any compensation for him, from one of the richest clubs in world football.

good post that

 

[mawders]

hasn't this question been asked multiple times in multiple threads? merge?

 

[Jamo Martinez]

This.....yet he thought Mark Hughes behaviour over Lescott was disgusting.

This is an important point. Hypocrite aswell as a liar and a smug bastid

 

[markmarkmark]

Meh

Fu*k him

 

[evertony]

The quote about 'preparing Utd to face Chelsea is different to preparing Everton to face Chelsea' really stuck in my gullet....because despite the massive amount of support we afforded him in his tenure he had the nerve to admit that our biggest criticism of him was true....after playing it down for years. We knew he was tactically sh1t-scared of playing the big teams, but that the players were good enough and that it was his massive ego that held us back. Jags interview on Weds night, and that of Roberto support this....Jags said we never came away and played freely (or words to that effect) and Roberto said we had to break the mentality about the place'.

I respect what he did overall, but consider him an absolute turd since the turn of 2013.

 

[billycopper]

If you were going out with a woman for 11 years and you think she's going to commit but she then announces that she's leaving you for a richer bloke but that she won't move out for a couple of months it would wind you up.

If she takes all your mutual friends with her you wouldn't be best pleased.

If she then starts offering you the CD collection for the kids and the dog and telling the world that the best thing would be if you just let them go you'd be a bit more annoyed.

So if she found out that the grass isn't greener and you found yourself an even fitter bird I think you'd be entitled to a little gloat.

 

[billycopper]

So Moyes apparently said "if that's the way they want to play it, they'll regret it." What possible damage could he do to us?

 

[orchard]

So Moyes apparently said "if that's the way they want to play it, they'll regret it." What possible damage could he do to us?

Keep on coming back as a topic to our forum and boring us senseless, the repugnant ginger weapon

 

[mkrudden]

"I met David at my house at Christmas 2012 and told him 'You're my successor, you're the next Man Utd manager" - Alex Ferguson in his book.

I've seen people write this a few times. Have you read fergies book? Cus I have and this so nowhere to be found. It says he notified the board of man utd in February and they approached Moyes in April, which is exactly what Moyes said...

I agree with all the rest though, it's as if Moyes was injected with sh*t upon entering the building at utd and has been spouting it back out ever since.