orchard
Player Valuation: £60m
Thankfully he didn't bother asking Pienaar about whether the grass is greener
Seriously though, he's acting like that character out of Fresh Meat that set his trainers on fire.
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Seriously though, he's acting like that character out of Fresh Meat that set his trainers on fire.
graeme2911
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I think what's changed my opinion is our attitude now. Look what's happened since Martinez had 'taken the brakes off". The league has been sh1t for about 3/4 years with no outstanding teams. We should have capitalised on that and got 4th / a cup at least once but his negativity had cost us. We've had a cracking squad for a few years now, but never been allowed to give it a proper go. I had those feelings in his last few years anyway tbh, but I still supported him.
That's what pi55es me off now. Now it is abundantly clear he held us back.
IMO anyway.
His comments since leaving us do get your back up a bit, but can't say I'm too arsed in comparison to the above.
That's what pi55es me off now. Now it is abundantly clear he held us back.
IMO anyway.
His comments since leaving us do get your back up a bit, but can't say I'm too arsed in comparison to the above.
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Thankfully he didn't bother asking Pienaar about whether the grass is greener
Seriously though, he's acting like that character out of Fresh Meat that set his trainers on fire.
I'd like to hear what Marouane has to say as well, but it may be years before that's published.
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
He had already spoken to Moyes around Christmas, and notified the Man Utd board in the February, then they MADE THEIR APPROACH to Everton in the April...that was the first Everton knew about it. It had already been decided, first by SAF and Moyes, and then by SAF Moyes, and Man U. Everton were the last to know. Is that not tapping up ?
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My feelings haven't changed toward him, I was ambivalent toward him as respectful as I could be. Difficult to feel anything for someone I'll never actually meet or know personally.
There was always comments from lads who did know him better and where better connected to him who I've massive respect and had very little time for him! Now... I see and understand why they felt this way.
I still respect his time and what he has done, but I think no more or less of him, just another adversary to beat for my club.
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
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Don't bother whingin' yer Ginger T1t, save it all for after the Goodison game, cos if you know anything at all about us then you'll know that you're getting it a lot worse when you play us at the 'Arl Lady.
I'd love it if there was something in the St End like they do abroad, something that they can't show on Motd.
I'd love it if there was something in the St End like they do abroad, something that they can't show on Motd.
Chang Elephant
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Stalled on a new contract for ages, sudden spurt of media appearances putting himself in the shop window, Tottenham if necessary but waiting on SAF for the real job.
Absolute disdain for the clubs fans, apparently told Kenwright he had no need to answer fans questions "You're Bill Kenwright" ffs, continued taking money for 2 months after the Utd move was announced (going to Carrington in the meantime).
But should have been immediately sacked after the Bucharest game.
Absolute disdain for the clubs fans, apparently told Kenwright he had no need to answer fans questions "You're Bill Kenwright" ffs, continued taking money for 2 months after the Utd move was announced (going to Carrington in the meantime).
But should have been immediately sacked after the Bucharest game.
BernieWright13
Player Valuation: £15m
Every word of this
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
It'll live in infamy how this belter was left in charge for the final games of season.
allezlesbleus
Player Valuation: £35m
That sums up a lot of my opinion notwithstanding a possible dispute over SAFs direct quote.
Not going to re write history. Loved him for years. Think he saved us from relegation when he arrived and gave pride back. Brought in loads of players who I have absolutely loved watching.
Began to wobble when he seemed not to have faith in his team and be cautious. Felt like strangling him when it was clear he thought we could only fluke a 1-0 over RS at Wembley by hanging on like grim death. I had waited since 1971 for proper revenge against them not the scornful laughter he put us through. Regular drift towards opinion he had lost interest in us and thought we were beneath him. Attitude and comments since he left us put final nail in coffin. Respect for his efforts overall but I despise his new club and suspect him of not acting properly in Everton's interests for a fair bit of last season.
I once had a boss who I thought was ace. turned out was conning me didn't think much of me and wouldn't matter what I did. Never knew till he left. Really two faced. Betrayed.
Exact same feeling now.
Had the last laugh. Got a new boss who was x100 the feller he was.
Exact same feeling now.
Had the last laugh. Got a new boss who was x100 the feller he was.
BirkenheadBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
I stood up in the Gwladys Street, applauded him off the pitch, and sang his name at the end of last season, as did so many of us. It was actually a pretty emotional moment, some grown fellas around me even had tears in their eyes. We gave him a send off the likes of which I'm not sure I've ever seen for a departing manager. Especially not one leaving to manage a "rival" club.
I was astonishingly worried about who we'd get in to replace Moyes. Say what we like about him, he did an excellent job of turning us from perennial relegation possibilities to consistently challenging for European places, and on a budget a fraction of what most of the league was spending.
Then we appointed Martinez (a move I wasn't exactly delighted about at the time - how wrong I was), and waited for the inevitable bids for Baines and Fellaini from Man Utd. At least, I thought, Moyes will play it down the middle, and we'll get a fair price for both.
When the bids arrived, I could barely believe my eyes - £12m for Baines? Then £28m for the pair of them?! Still, I convinced myself, Moyes won't have the sort of control at Utd that he had here... He will have just identified targets, and the "suits" at Utd will be doing all the bidding...
I didn't want to believe that this manager who I had stood and applauded, and sung his name only weeks before, could be involved in such blatant disrespect of our club.
Then came the occasional first hand comment about "holding back their careers". That was hard to swallow - I mean wasn't this the same man who had raged against Mark Hughes's conduct during the Lescott saga? There was a certain degree of satisfaction when they ended up having to pay almost the same as the joint bid, just for Fellaini on deadline day.
Next up was Ferguson's biography. Here was where my opinion started to truly turn. So Moyes had known for months that he would be leaving, and had strung us along with talk of new contracts and plans for the future? It was now dawning that perhaps the respect we had shown for him on that day in August was not even close to being reciprocated.
And finally, the straw that utterly shattered the camel's back... his comments in the lead up to Wednesday's match. While I hadn't wanted Martinez as our manager, he has done a phenomenal job so far - utterly transforming our style of play, and keeping us in the upper echelons of the league when so many thought we would just slip away... even bettering the starts of all but Moyes's best seasons
For Moyes to insinuate that this was really all down to him, when he had tried over the summer to single handedly tear down so much of that good work... for him to suggest that what Martinez has been doing was easy, such was the quality of HIS OWN work at the club, absolutely infuriated me. I'd've paid good money for one of the reporters present at that press conference to have asked him "if taking over from an established manager is so very easy, why are you in 8th place with the Premier League Champions"
Sadly, none of the assembled "journalists" bothered with that incredibly obvious follow-up... so I guess we'll have to make do with the fact that we outplayed, outfought and BEAT THEM in their own back yard.
David Moyes - thank you for what was for the most part a job very well done in your 11 years here, but quite frankly, from here on out... f*** you.
I was astonishingly worried about who we'd get in to replace Moyes. Say what we like about him, he did an excellent job of turning us from perennial relegation possibilities to consistently challenging for European places, and on a budget a fraction of what most of the league was spending.
Then we appointed Martinez (a move I wasn't exactly delighted about at the time - how wrong I was), and waited for the inevitable bids for Baines and Fellaini from Man Utd. At least, I thought, Moyes will play it down the middle, and we'll get a fair price for both.
When the bids arrived, I could barely believe my eyes - £12m for Baines? Then £28m for the pair of them?! Still, I convinced myself, Moyes won't have the sort of control at Utd that he had here... He will have just identified targets, and the "suits" at Utd will be doing all the bidding...
I didn't want to believe that this manager who I had stood and applauded, and sung his name only weeks before, could be involved in such blatant disrespect of our club.
Then came the occasional first hand comment about "holding back their careers". That was hard to swallow - I mean wasn't this the same man who had raged against Mark Hughes's conduct during the Lescott saga? There was a certain degree of satisfaction when they ended up having to pay almost the same as the joint bid, just for Fellaini on deadline day.
Next up was Ferguson's biography. Here was where my opinion started to truly turn. So Moyes had known for months that he would be leaving, and had strung us along with talk of new contracts and plans for the future? It was now dawning that perhaps the respect we had shown for him on that day in August was not even close to being reciprocated.
And finally, the straw that utterly shattered the camel's back... his comments in the lead up to Wednesday's match. While I hadn't wanted Martinez as our manager, he has done a phenomenal job so far - utterly transforming our style of play, and keeping us in the upper echelons of the league when so many thought we would just slip away... even bettering the starts of all but Moyes's best seasons
For Moyes to insinuate that this was really all down to him, when he had tried over the summer to single handedly tear down so much of that good work... for him to suggest that what Martinez has been doing was easy, such was the quality of HIS OWN work at the club, absolutely infuriated me. I'd've paid good money for one of the reporters present at that press conference to have asked him "if taking over from an established manager is so very easy, why are you in 8th place with the Premier League Champions"
Sadly, none of the assembled "journalists" bothered with that incredibly obvious follow-up... so I guess we'll have to make do with the fact that we outplayed, outfought and BEAT THEM in their own back yard.
David Moyes - thank you for what was for the most part a job very well done in your 11 years here, but quite frankly, from here on out... f*** you.
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Posted on kipper about Moyes being drab dour etc and stopped going to aways after hardly missing them for years just before chrimbo 2011/12 and said had enough- hated him and his dirge and negativity and had the usual Moyes clappers defending him to the hilt- pretty similar on here - up until a month or two ago loads saying Moyes was ace and Martinez still unsure about him- we all have opinions - Moyes was ok that's all nothing special - Martinez has restored in a few months more optimism and attacking footy and positivity about the place - Ive even started going to all the aways again-
Prob look back at this post tomoz and think had one too many sccops(which is true)but Ill still wake up and still have distain for Moyes and manlove for the lovely little Spanish sauce pot in Roberto.alllez allez ooohh COYB
Prob look back at this post tomoz and think had one too many sccops(which is true)but Ill still wake up and still have distain for Moyes and manlove for the lovely little Spanish sauce pot in Roberto.alllez allez ooohh COYB
I flipped him the bird at the match, which wasn't on to be fair and I'd apologise to him for doing so
I also stood and clapped him off the pitch at the West Ham game though
If he had just gone to United and not low balled us for Baines and not then made those stupid comments about he would have let Baines and Fellaini go if Fergie had come calling, he probably wouldn't have got booed that badly, if at all
He was a knob and he got an earful as a result
I also stood and clapped him off the pitch at the West Ham game though
If he had just gone to United and not low balled us for Baines and not then made those stupid comments about he would have let Baines and Fellaini go if Fergie had come calling, he probably wouldn't have got booed that badly, if at all
He was a knob and he got an earful as a result
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