Moshiri on Jim White show on TalkSport today....

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Neiler said:
I remain optimistic to be honest and this lad knows his stuff, thought that was a very good interview, here's my analysis.

First up, think back 12 months, a club saddled with debt, going with a begging bowl to the council to look at Walton Hall Park and about to embark on a horrible run that sapped the confidence of any decent player we had. e had embarked on a spending spree of Cleverly on a free, Aron Lennon and Mori for in and around 10 mill odd. That pretty much encapsulates were we where and where we had been for 25 years via, ebbing and flowing. The fundamentals of the club were static, we were riddled with debt and interest repayments annually that created a glass ceiling to us perinally at best 5th. Tied to a much loved but limited Godson, with little means of generating commercial revenue or fund that which would see us progress.

Now at that time If someone had said that we would we get owner who wipe out our debt, face lift Goodison, build us a 60k stadium on the dock and provide us with significant transfer funds, we would have bitten their hands of. Well thats happening.

What we always lacked to progress or break the glass ceiling were the fundamentals of the pitch, infrastructure, debt free and commercial revenue. Ive said that on here so many times over the years.

The brilliant thing about that interview is they are exactly what he stated his priorities are and im pretty confident and trust that he will compete those objectives.

He has already gotten rid of the debt, that is fundamental any revenue we make is out own. We have a world famous architect talking to us over twitter about his plans for a new stadium design and the dogs in the street know we are building it on the docks. What that will do to increasing revenue attracting and maximizing commercial revenue and sponsorship is huge. Im hugely reassured with the interview because his stated priorities arent about drip feeding the club to sign big name players its about the long term sustainability of the club, building infrastructure, increasing revenue and remaining debt free - that means 10 of millions and 100s of millions for us long term. We are future proofing the club and it is unrecognizable from last year to this in terms of progress and potential.

If he had come and dropped 200mill in the transfer market and we had Messi, Grizeman - yeah it would be fun, but largely irrelevant to the long term future of the club. Chelsea and City are drip fed clubs, we want to be like Arsenal and Utd, who have the fundamentals in place for now and the future and continue to grow incrementally.

Our target should be sustained growth rather then instant success, change to quickly isnt a good thing - see OPR. This is a process rather then an event.

The progress made by Everton in the few short months since his take over has been incredible, its not visible without analysis and reflection. Our potential for growth is huge, and the key indicators of debt, infrastructure and commercial revenue are being cultivated.

I would go so far to say this takeover and Moshiri is one of the best thing that has happened to Everton in our history.

Like i say this is a process rather then event, but ive been surprised at the rate and extent of good he has done, his plan is clear and concise and thus far he has backed it up, if he successful in continuing to make progress with it. We have ensured our seat at the top table of clubs in England for the next 100 years. Thats how significant and potential good his objectives are i believe will be for Everton.

We lie in exciting times, and the criticism and cynicism is dumbfounding. If we finished 16th this year and he continued with what hes doing and plans, i would still have the same opinion.
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Well that saved me a lot of typing to say the same! :)
 
davek said:
The only way to take his words is by highlighting substance rather than froth. On that score the securitization deal being squared off is the guts of it. Yes, that informs us that a path to a new stadium is being prepared, but didn't we know that was the intent anyway?

It was, for the most part, him doing what very rich people who own a toy do: show it off and bask in the reflected glory.
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I agree there was a lot of froth in there and as I said in my original post it was very contrived and planned.

You obviously wanted shut of the previous regime mate but seem to take issue with the fact that a very rich man is trying to do that. Can I ask you what you think the alternative might be?
 
Barnfred 55 said:
I thought he did promise a new stadium, admittedly not one specifically on the docks. I wouldn't expect any such promise until everything, including the planning, is finalised. I've no idea if that will ever happen, I hope it does but it may not. But I'm not going to dish Mosh off for not confirming it in a radio interview today.

Do you really want him to tell the world how much he is putting into the club to invest in new players? So all and sundry will hold us to ransom. I don't.

I didn't hear him making excuses for the transfer window. He was just saying what happened and even confirmed what most of us have been thinking and on which there's a multi page thread; that we dodged a few bullets by not getting them. I think he also made it clear that, although Martinez had promised Stones could leave this year, he would have held on to him had not Koeman given the go ahead to sell. I think the same will apply with Rom next summer, which given Koeman's comments at the weekend doesn't auger well. But if Rom won't sign a new contract the club don't have any other choice. What would YOU have him do?

Agree wholeheartedly re the Jim White/Talksport point. Even Sky Sports is part owned by the same people though. Where do you draw the line?

I agree it was very contrived and working to an agenda, but many fans will have been reassured by some of the things he had to say. Many, like yourself and me to a lesser degree, want to wait and see that he follows up his words with actions. That doesn't mean I'm going to call him out over it though.
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Nah he made no promise on anythign mate, new stadium etc, just a lot of politician style speak about udnerstanding, will strive and full support and udnerstanding what the fans want etc. But nothign that should things go tits up he could be called upon at all.

He mentined for example the financial restraints as a major problem hlding us back this summer due to the regulations only allowing a 7m increase witht he rest needing to be through commercial imprrovements to revenue, yeah all very true, excpet the fact he ommits, which is as soon as we sold Stones all of that became irrelevant and we had a massive ability to icnrease our spending by 50m or thereabouts not 7m (in wages terms btw) so any one not clued up on STCC will go away thinking we did our best when in fact it was an utrter shambles and one that we got fed through bvarious means as a good reason we have to sell one of the prized assets.

Next summer IF we sell Lukaku for example the exact same excuse will be reeled out - allowing us to strengthen, player wants to leave and we can't risk losing him in two years for nothing, promsies where given him to keep him anothe ryear etc, all sounds plausable, but how would those consecutive seasons of selling a 50m+ asset and basically spending that on incomigns with nothing really else be different to the mdel Southampton etc use which is buy to sell, it doesn't differ at all, it's just span differently but in essence it is the same

As for revealing how much we have to spend etc, will let the actual sums tell that tale, net spend on players this season - les than 10m, counting the cut of Stones we had to give Barnsley, all very well and god saying about Koulibaly, and the other failed transfers, but you don't have to spend money when you don't sign the player, so it's all irrelevant
 
Seathestars said:
In his first programme notes he did say we need a new stadium and its likely to cost more than the £3000 we paid for Goodison.
Its sounded like a promise to me.
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That's not a promise mate in the slightest, it's just admitting a fact that has been widely knows for decades, if he had said i will deliver the new stadium etc then yeah thats a promise, especially with a timescale attached, but it is all vaguaries at present
 
Brennan said:
To summarise, a lot of people on here moan about him saying nothing, and then jump on him when he gives an interview.

It baffles me that some of you support Everton at all, if I was that negative about it I'd sack it off.
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I think that's just people in general mate. serial moaners/complainers. the weather's too hot, too cold etc.... Its a really weird and probably disappointing way to live life (much like supporting Everton :))
 
Neiler said:
I remain optimistic to be honest and this lad knows his stuff, thought that was a very good interview, here's my analysis.

First up, think back 12 months, a club saddled with debt, going with a begging bowl to the council to look at Walton Hall Park and about to embark on a horrible run that sapped the confidence of any decent player we had. We had embarked on a spending spree of Cleverly on a free, Aron Lennon and Mori for in and around 10 mill odd. That pretty much encapsulates where we were and where we had been for 25 years via, ebbing and flowing. The fundamentals of the club were static, we were riddled with debt and interest repayments annually that created a glass ceiling for us perinally that inhibited investment and enabled us to finish at best 5th. Tied to a much loved but limited Goodson, with little means of generating commercial revenue or fund that which would see us progress a new stadium.

Now at that time If someone had said that we would get an owner who wipe out our debt, face lift Goodison, plan to build us a 60k stadium on the dock and provide us with significant transfer funds in 12 months, we would have bitten their hands of. Well thats happening. A little perspective is required here.

What we always lacked to progress or break the glass ceiling were the fundamentals off the pitch, infrastructure, debt free and commercial revenue. Ive said that on here so many times over the years.

The brilliant thing about that interview is those aspects are exactly what he stated his priorities are and im pretty confident and trust that he will compete those objectives.

He has already gotten rid of the debt, that is fundamental any revenue we make is now are own. We have a world famous architect talking to us over twitter about his plans for a new stadium design and the dogs in the street know we are building it on the docks. What that will do to increasing revenue attracting and maximizing commercial revenue and sponsorship is huge. Im hugely reassured with the interview because his stated priorities arent about drip feeding the club to sign big name players its about the long term sustainability of the club, building infrastructure, increasing revenue and remaining debt free - that means 10 of millions and 100s of millions for us long term. We are future proofing the club and it is unrecognizable from last year to this, in terms of progress and potential.

If he had come and dropped 200mill in the transfer market and we had Messi, Grizeman - yeah it would be fun, but largely irrelevant to the long term future of the club. Chelsea and City are drip fed clubs, we want to be like Arsenal and Utd, who have the fundamentals in place for now and the future and continue to grow incrementally.

Our target should be sustained growth rather then instant success, change to quickly isnt a good thing - see OPR. This is a process rather then an event.

The progress made by Everton in the few short months since his takeover has been incredible, its not visible without analysis and reflection. Our potential for growth is huge, and the key indicators of debt, infrastructure and commercial revenue are being cultivated and worked through.

I would go so far to say this takeover and Moshiri is one of the best thing that has happened to Everton in our history.

Like i say this it is a process rather then event, but ive been surprised at the rate and extent of good he has done, his plan is clear and concise and thus far he has backed it up, if he is successful in continuing to make progress with it. We have ensured our seat at the top table of clubs in England for the next 100 years. Thats how significant and potential good his objectives are i believe will be for Everton. Forget about transfers its irrlevent - but i dont think we will fail on this front either.

We live in exciting times, and the criticism and cynicism is dumbfounding. If we finished 16th this year and he continued with what hes doing and plans, i would still have the same opinion.
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Really excellent post.
 
terry nodder said:
No that'd be unreasonable, but if we are indeed making progress on it as a lot of people seem to think then I'd expect to know where it's going to be, but he hasn't said that has he?

We'll have to disagree on the squad then, I honestly think we need a complete overhaul

Cheers Terry
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Over time, I agree with you, but I think it may take a couple of seasons before we start seeing the benefits of Moshiri's influence. It's a bit unrealistic of us to expect him to come in to a club that ended up finishing 11th, get rid of about 10 players, and bring in about 8-10 top quality replacements all in one transfer window.

I agree it was poor that we left everything so late, and didn't have any back up plan though. That was ridiculous and if we do finish 7th or lower, then Moshiri and Koeman need to consider that approach for the next windows as I think we left ourselves shorter than needed.
 
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