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50,000 would be a big stadium compared to about 85% of the world's stadiums.
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50,000 would be a big stadium compared to about 85% of the world's stadiums.
To summarise, a lot of people on here moan about him saying nothing, and then jump on him when he gives an interview.
It baffles me that some of you support Everton at all, if I was that negative about it I'd sack it off.
It baffles me that some of you support Everton at all, if I was that negative about it I'd sack it off.
Human nature mate, magnified with football fans.
Some people are never happy and that.
I though that he came across ok myself.
Boycotting the Sun makes sense for obvious reasons, criticisng Moshiri for giving an interview to a separate radio station is absurd. As I said, many lifelong Evertonians will listen to Talksport while not reading the Sun. Are you going to have a go at them also ? Where does it end ?
Pienaar's gloves
Player Valuation: £35m
Mosh and Pienaar need to swap voices.
I remain optimistic to be honest and this lad knows his stuff, thought that was a very good interview, here's my analysis.
First up, think back 12 months, a club saddled with debt, going with a begging bowl to the council to look at Walton Hall Park and about to embark on a horrible run that sapped the confidence of any decent player we had. We had embarked on a spending spree of Cleverly on a free, Aron Lennon and Mori for in and around 10 mill odd. That pretty much encapsulates where we were and where we had been for 25 years via, ebbing and flowing. The fundamentals of the club were static, we were riddled with debt and interest repayments annually that created a glass ceiling for us perinally that inhibited investment and enabled us to finish at best 5th. Tied to a much loved but limited Goodson, with little means of generating commercial revenue or fund that which would see us progress a new stadium.
Now at that time If someone had said that we would get an owner who wipe out our debt, face lift Goodison, plan to build us a 60k stadium on the dock and provide us with significant transfer funds in 12 months, we would have bitten their hands of. Well thats happening. A little perspective is required here.
What we always lacked to progress or break the glass ceiling were the fundamentals off the pitch, infrastructure, debt free and commercial revenue. Ive said that on here so many times over the years.
The brilliant thing about that interview is those aspects are exactly what he stated his priorities are and im pretty confident and trust that he will compete those objectives.
He has already gotten rid of the debt, that is fundamental any revenue we make is now are own. We have a world famous architect talking to us over twitter about his plans for a new stadium design and the dogs in the street know we are building it on the docks. What that will do to increasing revenue attracting and maximizing commercial revenue and sponsorship is huge. Im hugely reassured with the interview because his stated priorities arent about drip feeding the club to sign big name players its about the long term sustainability of the club, building infrastructure, increasing revenue and remaining debt free - that means 10 of millions and 100s of millions for us long term. We are future proofing the club and it is unrecognizable from last year to this, in terms of progress and potential.
If he had come and dropped 200mill in the transfer market and we had Messi, Grizeman - yeah it would be fun, but largely irrelevant to the long term future of the club. Chelsea and City are drip fed clubs, we want to be like Arsenal and Utd, who have the fundamentals in place for now and the future and continue to grow incrementally.
Our target should be sustained growth rather then instant success, change to quickly isnt a good thing - see OPR. This is a process rather then an event.
The progress made by Everton in the few short months since his takeover has been incredible, its not visible without analysis and reflection. Our potential for growth is huge, and the key indicators of debt, infrastructure and commercial revenue are being cultivated and worked through.
I would go so far to say this takeover and Moshiri is one of the best thing that has happened to Everton in our history.
Like i say this it is a process rather then event, but ive been surprised at the rate and extent of good he has done, his plan is clear and concise and thus far he has backed it up, if he is successful in continuing to make progress with it. We have ensured our seat at the top table of clubs in England for the next 100 years. Thats how significant and potential good his objectives are i believe will be for Everton. Forget about transfers its irrlevent - but i dont think we will fail on this front either.
We live in exciting times, and the criticism and cynicism is dumbfounding. If we finished 16th this year and he continued with what hes doing and plans, i would still have the same opinion.
First up, think back 12 months, a club saddled with debt, going with a begging bowl to the council to look at Walton Hall Park and about to embark on a horrible run that sapped the confidence of any decent player we had. We had embarked on a spending spree of Cleverly on a free, Aron Lennon and Mori for in and around 10 mill odd. That pretty much encapsulates where we were and where we had been for 25 years via, ebbing and flowing. The fundamentals of the club were static, we were riddled with debt and interest repayments annually that created a glass ceiling for us perinally that inhibited investment and enabled us to finish at best 5th. Tied to a much loved but limited Goodson, with little means of generating commercial revenue or fund that which would see us progress a new stadium.
Now at that time If someone had said that we would get an owner who wipe out our debt, face lift Goodison, plan to build us a 60k stadium on the dock and provide us with significant transfer funds in 12 months, we would have bitten their hands of. Well thats happening. A little perspective is required here.
What we always lacked to progress or break the glass ceiling were the fundamentals off the pitch, infrastructure, debt free and commercial revenue. Ive said that on here so many times over the years.
The brilliant thing about that interview is those aspects are exactly what he stated his priorities are and im pretty confident and trust that he will compete those objectives.
He has already gotten rid of the debt, that is fundamental any revenue we make is now are own. We have a world famous architect talking to us over twitter about his plans for a new stadium design and the dogs in the street know we are building it on the docks. What that will do to increasing revenue attracting and maximizing commercial revenue and sponsorship is huge. Im hugely reassured with the interview because his stated priorities arent about drip feeding the club to sign big name players its about the long term sustainability of the club, building infrastructure, increasing revenue and remaining debt free - that means 10 of millions and 100s of millions for us long term. We are future proofing the club and it is unrecognizable from last year to this, in terms of progress and potential.
If he had come and dropped 200mill in the transfer market and we had Messi, Grizeman - yeah it would be fun, but largely irrelevant to the long term future of the club. Chelsea and City are drip fed clubs, we want to be like Arsenal and Utd, who have the fundamentals in place for now and the future and continue to grow incrementally.
Our target should be sustained growth rather then instant success, change to quickly isnt a good thing - see OPR. This is a process rather then an event.
The progress made by Everton in the few short months since his takeover has been incredible, its not visible without analysis and reflection. Our potential for growth is huge, and the key indicators of debt, infrastructure and commercial revenue are being cultivated and worked through.
I would go so far to say this takeover and Moshiri is one of the best thing that has happened to Everton in our history.
Like i say this it is a process rather then event, but ive been surprised at the rate and extent of good he has done, his plan is clear and concise and thus far he has backed it up, if he is successful in continuing to make progress with it. We have ensured our seat at the top table of clubs in England for the next 100 years. Thats how significant and potential good his objectives are i believe will be for Everton. Forget about transfers its irrlevent - but i dont think we will fail on this front either.
We live in exciting times, and the criticism and cynicism is dumbfounding. If we finished 16th this year and he continued with what hes doing and plans, i would still have the same opinion.
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Barnfred 55
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I thought he did promise a new stadium, admittedly not one specifically on the docks. I wouldn't expect any such promise until everything, including the planning, is finalised. I've no idea if that will ever happen, I hope it does but it may not. But I'm not going to dish Mosh off for not confirming it in a radio interview today.
Do you really want him to tell the world how much he is putting into the club to invest in new players? So all and sundry will hold us to ransom. I don't.
I didn't hear him making excuses for the transfer window. He was just saying what happened and even confirmed what most of us have been thinking and on which there's a multi page thread; that we dodged a few bullets by not getting them. I think he also made it clear that, although Martinez had promised Stones could leave this year, he would have held on to him had not Koeman given the go ahead to sell. I think the same will apply with Rom next summer, which given Koeman's comments at the weekend doesn't auger well. But if Rom won't sign a new contract the club don't have any other choice. What would YOU have him do?
Agree wholeheartedly re the Jim White/Talksport point. Even Sky Sports is part owned by the same people though. Where do you draw the line?
I agree it was very contrived and working to an agenda, but many fans will have been reassured by some of the things he had to say. Many, like yourself and me to a lesser degree, want to wait and see that he follows up his words with actions. That doesn't mean I'm going to call him out over it though.
Blue Cheese
Mental Patient, GOT Ward
Ey up Tel the mask slipped a bit then lid, nearly showed you true self.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Iirc the statement was some bollocks about how we're a family which is why we didn't go for Sissoko.
Today he has said he wanted CL football.
Duncan Disordely
Player Valuation: £35m
Jamiednm
Player Valuation: £40m
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Sorry, but I just wanted to highlight the most pointless post I've seen on here in a long time.
terry nodder
Player Valuation: £8m
Flipping great what shall we do then?
Buy a squad loaded with CL quality players?
Build an iconic new stadium?
Hey why don't we just do both, doesn't that sound great?
Over to you Farh. . . . oh he's gone.
Thanks Ted
What about those panicking that they'll be a source of that commercial revenue when the ticket price doubles.
Didn't say anything that couldn't be taken each way depending if your glass is half full or half empty
I did like his Scoobey Doo villain moment; If it wasn't for that pesky FFP and their 7M limit I could've got away with doing a city and chelsea
Gladystweet
Player Valuation: £50m
I can't listen as I've used all my data until tomorrow. Will someone please summarise?
Are we optimistic?
Are we optimistic?
In his first programme notes he did say we need a new stadium and its likely to cost more than the £3000 we paid for Goodison.
Its sounded like a promise to me.
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