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The fact that Forest did it once is an exception which proves the rule (look at them this season). It's like saying Leicester won the league after surviving a relegation scrap, so there's no reason we shouldn't be doing the same.

I don't want to defend some of our failings too much, but there's no rational reason for setting expectation levels at European qualification this season. If it happened, we'd be overachieving based on our starting point and transfer dealings.
I'd be satisfied with mid table(god that hurts me to say when I've seen us win the title 🙄😂)but only if I felt the sides above us were tangibly much better than us,I just feel in this season in particular there has been opportunities for someone from lower mid table to push on,it may be ten times harder next term who knows?
 
You can cut stats the way you want -

Indeed you can.

last season we were indeed closer to a European spot than a relegation one in terms of points,

Yes, and the season before don't forget. In Dyche's only full season, points wise earned, we finished 12th - so that's two successive seasons on the spin we've earned the points to be closer to Europe than Relegation.

but firstly that was pretty much down to Moyes as we were right in the middle of a relegation scrap when he arrived and secondly the points total for the bottom three last season was the lowest in PL history, so it feels a bit disingenuous to phrase it that way.

The bottom 3 is currently the worst it's ever been in PL history after 21 game weeks.

Moyes rocked up last season, with us on 17 points from 19th games.

18th went down last season on 25 points.

So Moyes needed 8 points from 19 games to see us safe. Praise the lord he managed it.

The season before is a funny one to argue as on the pitch was 48 points, but we still had to concern ourselves with relegation for a while (thanks Premier League), but were again aided by a very poor bottom three (the 2nd lowest in PL history, I think)

We did, we have no point deduction concerns now, or an AWOL owner. Nor the complete inability to spend, or have to make profit every window - Iwobi, Richarlison, Gordon etc.


And yes, we did spend more this summer than the previous 7 years combined in net terms, but only because we literally had to replace so many players who were out of contract. In gross terms, it was less than the previous 3 combined (still not insignificant).

We had the luxury of deciding which players we wanted to keep. Doucoure, DCL, all of them - we could have kept if we wanted. We decided to let them go and take the opportunity a club record spend allowed.

Point I'm making here isn't that we shouldn't be looking upwards,

We absolutely should and I find it bonkers people are holding on to a pissy, wet blanket of relegation fights for comfort.

Villa went down a few years back. I wonder how long they wanted to keep talking up relegation.

we absolutely should be looking to improve on last season's 13th place finish and points tally of 48 points, but it's all relative - we've not significantly outspent any of the teams above us and we weren't exactly building from a position of huge strength (far from it).

I'll 100% accept that about 10th should be a realistic aim, but nobody is convincing me that we should be qualifying for Europe this season and that if we don't it's been an underperformance

My own opinion is we should be aiming top 10.

The managers and club captains opinion is Europe, and frankly - I don't disagree.

Anything bottom half of the table would be disappointing to me, no matter how slim the margins.

Half the league are in europe, and we've pissed away the cup competitions at pretty much the first time of asking.

Seasons over, no pressure, we'll pickup the points to finish top half IMO.
 
Indeed you can.



Yes, and the season before don't forget. In Dyche's only full season, points wise earned, we finished 12th - so that's two successive seasons on the spin we've earned the points to be closer to Europe than Relegation.



The bottom 3 is currently the worst it's ever been in PL history after 21 game weeks.

Moyes rocked up last season, with us on 17 points from 19th games.

18th went down last season on 25 points.

So Moyes needed 8 points from 19 games to see us safe. Praise the lord he managed it.



We did, we have no point deduction concerns now, or an AWOL owner. Nor the complete inability to spend, or have to make profit every window - Iwobi, Richarlison, Gordon etc.




We had the luxury of deciding which players we wanted to keep. Doucoure, DCL, all of them - we could have kept if we wanted. We decided to let them go and take the opportunity a club record spend allowed.



We absolutely should and I find it bonkers people are holding on to a pissy, wet blanket of relegation fights for comfort.

Villa went down a few years back. I wonder how long they wanted to keep talking up relegation.



My own opinion is we should be aiming top 10.

The managers and club captains opinion is Europe, and frankly - I don't disagree.

Anything bottom half of the table would be disappointing to me, no matter how slim the margins.

Half the league are in europe, and we've pissed away the cup competitions at pretty much the first time of asking.

Seasons over, no pressure, we'll pickup the points to finish top half IMO.


My feeling is we’ll come in about 9th or 10th and we’ll say it’s been a season of progress, which it has, but we’ll look and see ourselves a handful of points away from making Europe and know that if we’d only not messed up one or two less games we’d be there. Every club can say this of course but it’s usually us saying it whilst another club will squeeze in on the last day.

It’s the same old at Everton though, just like all those times we just missed out on Europe, or didn’t quite make the CL, we’re very good at not quite getting over the line. It would be nice for once if we just went and did it.
 
Indeed you can.



Yes, and the season before don't forget. In Dyche's only full season, points wise earned, we finished 12th - so that's two successive seasons on the spin we've earned the points to be closer to Europe than Relegation.



The bottom 3 is currently the worst it's ever been in PL history after 21 game weeks.

Moyes rocked up last season, with us on 17 points from 19th games.

18th went down last season on 25 points.

So Moyes needed 8 points from 19 games to see us safe. Praise the lord he managed it.



We did, we have no point deduction concerns now, or an AWOL owner. Nor the complete inability to spend, or have to make profit every window - Iwobi, Richarlison, Gordon etc.




We had the luxury of deciding which players we wanted to keep. Doucoure, DCL, all of them - we could have kept if we wanted. We decided to let them go and take the opportunity a club record spend allowed.



We absolutely should and I find it bonkers people are holding on to a pissy, wet blanket of relegation fights for comfort.

Villa went down a few years back. I wonder how long they wanted to keep talking up relegation.



My own opinion is we should be aiming top 10.

The managers and club captains opinion is Europe, and frankly - I don't disagree.


Anything bottom half of the table would be disappointing to me, no matter how slim the margins.

Half the league are in europe, and we've pissed away the cup competitions at pretty much the first time of asking.

Seasons over, no pressure, we'll pickup the points to finish top half IMO.
Top 10 is absolutely fine

I would expect the manager and players to say that we want Europe, although worth mentioning what Moyes said in the Echo today...

"I want to try to push to get a higher position and if I don't and we stay as a pretty safe, mid-table team, I don't think it would be too bad a position"

I'm hardly going to throw my toys out of the park if we miss out on 10th by a point or two, but equally I also want us to be finishing as high as we can.

I just think if you're making an argument that Europe is somehow the requirement this season then you're doing it based on no real solid basis.
 
A huge fan of this. Enjoy how they just zero in on their next object of rage and think we forget how wrong they were, constantly, and how much they don’t know soccer. Which doesn’t stop their daily tirades.

Just book the therapy, lads.

When you have time away from here which i do plenty of times, you come back and realise a day on here is like a month off of it..
 

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