Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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And that’s the emotive and political bit. It doesn’t sort out the future for both peoples. Get rid of the cancer, get rid of the terrorists then maybe you have a chance….l
You need to be referring to the national-religious settlers in the West Bank as much as Hamas when you make statements like that. They are every bit as much a death cult, their behaviour is comparable in its evil, and they have the full backing of the current Israeli government. In fact, they fill several posts within it.
 
Not quite. Some I agree with, the blood cult religion bit if you are applying this to ordinary Israelis as opposed to Hamas I would take disagreement with…
There are no 'ordinary Israelis', those like orthodox and Hacidic are anti zionists. The people arriving from other lands try to 'fit in' with how they percieve they should, taking over Palestinian homes and baiting the locals, as much out of desire to do 'the Israeli thing' as out of desperation.
Doing national service creates an aggressive, nationalistic and paranoid public, add to it a borderline fascist party like Likud. So for Israel to dbe what Israel does, it has to be a majority complicit people, or at least disbelieving of reality and absorbed into the party line, hyper ironically.
 
There are no 'ordinary Israelis', those like orthodox and Hacidic are anti zionists. The people arriving from other lands try to 'fit in' with how they percieve they should, taking over Palestinian homes and baiting the locals, as much out of desire to do 'the Israeli thing' as out of desperation.
Doing national service creates an aggressive, nationalistic and paranoid public, add to it a borderline fascist party like Likud. So for Israel to dbe what Israel does, it has to be a majority complicit people, or at least disbelieving of reality and absorbed into the party line, hyper ironically.
Plenty of Orthodox among the settlers and the hardline right.
 
That's a pretty insane clip isn't it.

I read somewhere that she's a lifelong peace activist - is that true? I wonder if that had any bearing on her release?

I bet Bibi is seething.
Incredble that such a mundane thing to do can become such a powerful image. Hopefully this is the catalyst to get the warmongering morons around a table to end the blooshed.
 
So, imagine you are Israel. 1400 innocent people are murdered and another 200 taken as hostages. What do you do ? Say well never mind it’s just Hamas, maybe get a little upset or decide to do something. Now no bullshit guys, if you were in Israel what would you demand happened….please, no history, no whataboutery, just say what in that instance what would you want done……
So you think the war on Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 was justified then based on the same logic?
 
No. Iraq was stupid and illegal. Afghanistan was a mistake but could have had a good outcome for the people but it was then thrown away by Biden …..
It's the same principle here how I see it: a regime doing something terrible, but small in the context of the retaliation that takes place against the people it claims to represent but is probably just as unwelcome. To allow the Palestinians to suffer in the name of wiping out Hamas is along the lines of defeating Al Queda and Saddam Hussein. Both ended in terrible wastes of life, and surely we should be learning by now. Unfortunately, we don't.
 
He wont reply, hes busy wanking himself off to murdered kids.

Him and Zat on Facetime mutual masturbating about the murders committed today.

If you call them out, it must mean you are an anti-Semitic lad.

Can you show me a post where I have written about Palestinian civilians being killed being a positive?

For all this nonsense not one salient point put across by anyone can be answered by those who hate Israel.

You are actually beyond hope or help. You're so full of spoonfed rhetoric that if Bibi buggered you dry you'd claim it was love. Absolute weasel you are.

Another post without any semblence of logic.

Do you feel any sympathy for the dead Israelis and their families ?…..

You should do stand up. They're all laughing at the absurdity of this.

So, imagine you are Israel. 1400 innocent people are murdered and another 200 taken as hostages. What do you do ? Say well never mind it’s just Hamas, maybe get a little upset or decide to do something. Now no bullshit guys, if you were in Israel what would you demand happened….please, no history, no whataboutery, just say what in that instance what would you want done……

You wont get an answer which makes sense.

I've seen it around.
I follow a few Israeli DJ's/producers who were either at or knew people at the music festival that was attacked and have seen a few of their followers post the Hamas is ISIS thing as a hashtag.

It seems that one of the justifications some people in support of Israel are trying to put forward is that the US/UK bombed both Iraq and Afghanistan into near oblivion to get to Al Qaeda/ISIS, so therefore it is ok for them to do it to get to Hamas.

Can you remember a time when there were pro Al Qaeda marches after 911 ? Or pro ISIS marches with the same rhetoric as now, of this scale with this level of hate speech?

It is that. Just curious as, prior to the last few days, since the hospital bombing, I'd never heard a connection between Hamas and Isis, Hamas was always a stand alone organisation, unconnected to any jihadist group.
Weird they make very strange and fortunate bedfellows at this time.
Propaganda, some might say 🤔

Its so useful idiots can understand how comparable Hamas, ISIS and Al Qaeda are. Clearly not to the UK police though.

I'd send Zatara in to bore them to tears.

Another who cant answer a basic question with an alternative.

Why not send in your family instead? Im sure they're riveted by your intellectual patter.

I asked, what would you do, not what you wouldn‘t do. Now try again…..

As an extremely well funded high tech military I would be looking to send in small commando units to take out the perpetrators, knowing full well that this battle would be played out in the media and online by force of opinion. Certainly keeping 'collateral damage' to an absolute minimum and maintaining a moral purpose. And this only to be politically expeditious.
However, I am not Israel, I am not the birthchild of a bloodcult religion with no concern for those it considers second class or as 'animals'. I am not playing out a scene of the end times to keep my American backers happy, financially and religiously.
And that is what is on show. Immorality masquerading as 'retaliation'.
Does that answer your question?

...and here it is:

"a bloodcult religion"
 
E.g the brutal subjugation, murder, brutalisation for 75 years means nothing. Just pathetic.
How many dead bodies of innocents satiate that blood lust. Why is only one side a victim here, the side backed heavily with billions, and backed by US and Britain? Why are Arabs worth less to you?

Yet they havent even alluded to this.

Just another non-answer.

Again, no history, just say what you would do, no obfuscation, no whataboutery, what would you demand …

The answers I have seen Pete are:

A: Israel had it coming
B: Israel should talk to Hamas
C: Send in small units to locate terrorists in a heavily fortified area hidden amongst civilians

Any of these theories would not only enrage the Israeli population but Jews worldwide (and non-Jews). Also how better to look weak to the other nations in the region?

There are no 'ordinary Israelis', those like orthodox and Hacidic are anti zionists. The people arriving from other lands try to 'fit in' with how they percieve they should, taking over Palestinian homes and baiting the locals, as much out of desire to do 'the Israeli thing' as out of desperation.
Doing national service creates an aggressive, nationalistic and paranoid public, add to it a borderline fascist party like Likud. So for Israel to dbe what Israel does, it has to be a majority complicit people, or at least disbelieving of reality and absorbed into the party line, hyper ironically.

Now change the words for Gaza not Israel.
 
US preparing for an escalation or wanting an escalation to attack Iran?

"Carrier Ike Midway Across Atlantic, En Route to Middle East - USNI News" https://news.usni.org/2023/10/23/us...y-across-atlantic-en-route-to-the-middle-east

And so US direct military involvement begins, 'military advisors on the ground ', in Israel, as in Vietnam.


"Pentagon rushes defenses and advisers to Middle East as Israel's ground assault in Gaza looms | AP News" https://apnews.com/article/israel-military-iran-navy-gaza-1a906598be5baccc614897768b1824a8
 
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