Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[nsno-chris]

I disagree, we are drowning in debt. Which in my opinion is deliberate. They are making the majority of people debt slaves. Who is doing this, who owns the Central Banks? Who are those people owned by?

Oh goody, right down this path

 

[Calvin]

Conspiracy theorists have field day on everything but we live in the real world. I work in financial management those numbers are a window in time. Anyway, with a reserve currency and a top military they can inflate away. I know the pound or dollar doesn’t spend like it use too. But you make more pounds and dollars than you did since Nixon took the US off the gold standard.
Back to Israel they need very little help from the West. Why are two battle groups in the Mediterranean? To curb Irans and Syrias appetite

Ok don’t want to derail this thread, but by a lot of indicators we will see fairly soon how broke most governments are worldwide. They can’t keep interest rates down, they can’t keep inflation down, we are heading into a recession/depression. Let’s see how governments handle massive debts along with rising unemployment.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Ok don’t want to derail this thread, but by a lot of indicators we will see fairly soon how broke most governments are worldwide. They can’t keep interest rates down, they can’t keep inflation down, we are heading into a recession/depression. Let’s see how governments handle massive debts along with rising unemployment.

Historically you will see peaks and valleys. Look at the 1980’s interest rates skyrocketed guess what the end of the world didn’t happen why because of technology and advances in biosciences smoothed the curve.
But you are correct let’s not hijack this thread.

 

[trueblue84]

I'm more of a Jean-Paul man, myself.

Mr penguin could be his advisor.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Well after the events play themselves out you would expect the Israeli government and its western backers to stop trying to bypass and block a Palestinian state.

Look to engage in a genuine peace process rather than changing the facts on the ground via illegal settlement construction and work towards the that goal.

In the short term Israelis lose the moral high ground by telling civilians to head south then bomb the convoys of civilians heading that way…..that wanton murder and destroys any moral or legal justification Fir the Gaza siege as it is deliberately targeted civilians like the terrorist Hamas.

By the way if Israel decides to tell civilians to leave Gaza and then not allow them back in and then allow settlers to move in then it is nothing more than a terror state.

Now let’s hear what your solution is Pete

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[ramacca]

 

[coollino]

Took a while tbf

 

[magicjuan]

You will never see it in your lifetime. Eventually, fiat currency will expire but the US still has massive Gold reserves. Debt based system has been in effect since the Roman Empire Perhaps even longer.

That only works if gold is valued. There are minerals more valuable, that is a big influence. As technology develops materialism diminishes and is replaced by a technological virtual realism.
Someone has mentioned the 4th wave, but it's early stages of 4th and the dying embers of the 3rd, hence struggles over trades outside of oil.
The biggest concern is water, the most valuable commodity, as Israel is displaying, and every economy of late stage capitalism is on the thinnest of thin ice, so it hasn't got the capacity to cope but it's still trying to use war as a kick start to economies.

 

[Calvin]

That only works if gold is valued. There are minerals more valuable, that is a big influence. As technology develops materialism diminishes and is replaced by a technological virtual realism.
Someone has mentioned the 4th wave, but it's early stages of 4th and the dying embers of the 3rd, hence struggles over trades outside of oil.
The biggest concern is water, the most valuable commodity, as Israel is displaying, and every economy of late stage capitalism is on the thinnest of thin ice, so it hasn't got the capacity to cope but it's still trying to use war as a kick start to economies.

Not every mineral can be “Money”, gold has particular properties that allow it to be “Money”. I’ve started a thread with a video explaining this because I didn’t want to derail this thread.

 

[magicjuan]

Not every mineral can be “Money”, gold has particular properties that allow it to be “Money”. I’ve started a thread with a video explaining this because I didn’t want to derail this thread.

Answered in your thread.

 

[longers]

Still getting pummeled with adverts for Israeli armed forces etc on Youtube

 

[Blue 1]

I would set up a Palestinian state over on the West Bank. Done over a few years and paid for by western and Arab countries. That would be the longer term solution, but I would engage with Egypt and Jordan to make this happen, by asking both of them to take over Gaza and an agreed area of the West Bank immediately and oversee the transition. Both Israelis and Palestinians would want to live without war, but during the transition I would want the two aforementioned countries to help eliminate the terrorist groups in order for this to be obtained….

What do you do about the half a million settlers living in the West Bank, the vast majority in blocs with territorial contiguity to Jerusalem?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Exercise restraint and provide assurances that they won’t carpet bomb civilians in retaliation.

Rather insane that anyone let alone a supposedly democratic state as Israel is bombing civillian infrastructure with hundreds of of people inside just to take 1 or 2 Hamas fighterS out. Morally reprehensible yet fair few in West are wetting themselves with excitement at the prospect.
And what is so sickening our Government should asking why the Hamas leadership is being safely harboured in Qatar a key ally to the West...

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

That only works if gold is valued. There are minerals more valuable, that is a big influence. As technology develops materialism diminishes and is replaced by a technological virtual realism.
Someone has mentioned the 4th wave, but it's early stages of 4th and the dying embers of the 3rd, hence struggles over trades outside of oil.
The biggest concern is water, the most valuable commodity, as Israel is displaying, and every economy of late stage capitalism is on the thinnest of thin ice, so it hasn't got the capacity to cope but it's still trying to use war as a kick start to economies.

Great post right on the mark!

 

[Tin-Tin]