Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[davek]

lol

 

[davek]

I have been through an emergency c-section situation with the missus. If we had been in Gaza there is a very high probability both would have died. Seeing the reports about the tens of thousands of mums to be there is heartbreaking and a disgrace. Worse still for the young children finding their lives have entered hell. I cannot even imagine the anguise and terror that these poor people must be feeling and experiencing.

There was a dad I may have mentioned earlier, a Jewsih chap who's young daughter was murdered by Hamas whilst at her friends. You could see that his life is destroyed, heart broken and in extreme shock.

There was another Palestrinian dad and husband who had lost his wife and all his chldren in a bomb strike.

No one in Israel or Palestine is winning here, everyone will lose. It is a disaster. That said, there will be actors looking to benefit from this.

Last line is completely untrue: the Israeli population get a lot out of the constant incursions into Palestinian territories after a terrorist attack: the continued destruction and degradation of the people they share a land with and the continuation of their own sumptuous lifestyle as Gazan's especially get further and further ground into the dirt and oblivion.

You simply can't take a middle line on this. There's only right v might.

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Last line is completely untrue: the Israeli population get a lot out of the constant incursions into Palestinian territories after a terrorist attack: the continued destruction and degradation of the people they share a land with and the continuation of their own sumptuous lifestyle as Gazan's especially get further and further ground into the dirt and oblivion.

You simply can't take a middle line on this. There's only right v might.

You think this is going to lead to security for Israeli's. Also you seem to be assuming that all Israeli's will be behind this.

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[Neiler]

Blatant land grab.
Leave or die.
Also we'll prevent you leaving.
Why are you not responsible when we have given you options.

Israel I fear are going to take the opportunity to commit genocide.

This is wrong and much of the worlds leaders are at best apathetic toward this and at worst fully supporting it.

This could be the biggest human tragedy of our lives unfolding in front of us.

Israel need to be pulled back from the brink of this insanity.

 

[Ferguson1878]

these [Poor language removed] are no better than the ones who tried to wipe them out in the 40s

 

[TheFinnFan]

Egypt denying Gaza civilian access to the country through south border. Thats insane but not suprising. They rather see them dead.

 

[Wizard]

 

[Ferguson1878]

Egypt denying Gaza civilian access to the country through south border. Thats insane but not suprising. They rather see them dead.

mad how a lot of arab country’s don’t like palestinians

 

[Martin Alvito]

these [Poor language removed] are no better than the ones who tried to wipe them out in the 40s

The power equation flipped in the intervening 75 years. Historically, weak states that suddenly become strong tend to give in to their worst impulses to punish and retaliate. It's worth pointing out that this never ends well for them. Violent challenges to the international order in the last few centuries have led to one of two results: victory by the incumbent, or a pyrrhic victory for one of the combatants that leads to a third party or parties becoming dominant.

Egypt denying Gaza civilian access to the country through south border. Thats insane but not suprising. They rather see them dead.

They're concerned they'll let Hamas in, which will lead both to challenges to the existing regime and painting a target on themselves for the Israelis.

I can't see anything stopping what is about to happen short of the relocation and dispersal of the Gazans as refugees across the globe. IMO the war cabinet's chosen path leads to dead hostages, pariah state status and a much broader war. I can only conclude that the attacks have deprived them of reason.

 

[Ferguson1878]

The power equation flipped in the intervening 75 years. Historically, weak states that suddenly become strong tend to give in to their worst impulses to punish and retaliate. It's worth pointing out that this never ends well for them. Violent challenges to the international order in the last few centuries have led to one of two results: victory by the incumbent, or a pyrrhic victory for one of the combatants that leads to a third party or parties becoming dominant.


They're concerned they'll let Hamas in, which will lead both to challenges to the existing regime and painting a target on themselves for the Israelis.

I can't see anything stopping what is about to happen short of the relocation and dispersal of the Gazans as refugees across the globe. IMO the war cabinet's chosen path leads to dead hostages, pariah state status and a much broader war. I can only conclude that the attacks have deprived them of reason.

especially when the likes of america let them do what they want

 

[tsubaki]

The power equation flipped in the intervening 75 years. Historically, weak states that suddenly become strong tend to give in to their worst impulses to punish and retaliate. It's worth pointing out that this never ends well for them. Violent challenges to the international order in the last few centuries have led to one of two results: victory by the incumbent, or a pyrrhic victory for one of the combatants that leads to a third party or parties becoming dominant.


They're concerned they'll let Hamas in, which will lead both to challenges to the existing regime and painting a target on themselves for the Israelis.

I can't see anything stopping what is about to happen short of the relocation and dispersal of the Gazans as refugees across the globe. IMO the war cabinet's chosen path leads to dead hostages, pariah state status and a much broader war. I can only conclude that the attacks have deprived them of reason.

Sorry for repeating myself but the problem here is that they are focused on their survival, not the wellbeing of the country.

 

[spectateur]

these [Poor language removed] are no better than the ones who tried to wipe them out in the 40s

The similarities of the reprisals are alarming.
Those people have certainly learned much from their tormentors.

 

[Milkman]

these [Poor language removed] are no better than the ones who tried to wipe them out in the 40s

Isn't this one of the IHRA definitions of anti-Semitism that all the centrists had such a hard-on for?

I don't agree with it as you can probably tell, and I think we're seeing the repercussions of why those guidelines were so problematic.