Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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WHY THE HELL DO THEY FEEL THE NEED TO BOMB A HOSPITAL?

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I doubt they intend to bomb it. They're probably ordering them to evacuate because they intend to issue rules of engagement going weapons-free north of the evacuation line. If they're going in, they don't want Hamas shooting back from the hospital any more than Ukraine wants Russia shooting back from Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station.
 
Another thing that is scary is that hamas attacking Israel, knowing what the repercussions are to doing that does not sound completely independent. What if there was something that happened that the media have not reported previously but on purpose to distort the narrative on their actions? I don't know too much about this but if hamas knew there would be retalliation towards their own people then there is always the chance that there was a reason for it. To have that one attack against an enemy that can attack using attrition isn't worth the risk unless provoked in some way.
 
Another thing that is scary is that hamas attacking Israel, knowing what the repercussions are to doing that does not sound completely independent. What if there was something that happened that the media have not reported previously but on purpose to distort the narrative on their actions? I don't know too much about this but if hamas knew there would be retalliation towards their own people then there is always the chance that there was a reason for it. To have that one attack against an enemy that can attack using attrition isn't worth the risk unless provoked in some way.

that the likely reaction would be this is almost certainly why they did it
 
that the likely reaction would be this is almost certainly why they did it

This.

Also there is no way Israel can go into Gaza and wipe out Hamas, they are a Gurella organisation, it’s impossible. No one will be in Gaza wearing I’m a member of Hamas T-Shirt, how do you distinguish between a member of Hamas and an innocent bystander - you don’t and can’t, you wipe everyone out - everyone is Hamas.

Conversely the slaughter will lead to a fertile recruitment ground for Hamas for the next generation. If your community is wiped out by Israelis are you more or less likely to join Hamas…….
 
This.

Also there is no way Israel can go into Gaza and wipe out Hamas, they are a Gurella organisation, it’s impossible. No one will be in Gaza wearing I’m a member of Hamas T-Shirt, how do you distinguish between a member of Hamas and an innocent bystander - you don’t and can’t, you wipe everyone out - everyone is Hamas.

Conversely the slaughter will lead to fertile recruitment ground for Hamas for the next generation. If your community is wiped out by Israelis are you more or less likely to join Hamas…….
It's why the War on Terror was bankrupt from the start. There were plenty of people in academe pointing this out with good data and theory in top journals, and demonstrating exactly the recruitment effects you describe, but the prevailing political winds blew in the other direction and no one outside of academe much listened.
 
It's why the War on Terror was bankrupt from the start. There were plenty of people in academe pointing this out with good data and theory in top journals, and demonstrating exactly the recruitment effects you describe, but the prevailing political winds blew in the other direction and no one outside of academe much listened.


Also martyrdom mate and the impact of the enforced poverty and no rights. There is a whole psychology behind it…..

It’s actually frightening that this has happens again and again so much in our species history, in so many parts of the world, not least in my country, but we seem to learn nothing from it, until too much blood is split.
 
Also martyrdom mate and the impact of the enforced poverty and no rights. There is a whole psychology behind it…..

It’s actually frightening that this has happens again and again so much in our species history, in so many parts of the world, not least in my country, but we seem to learn nothing from it, until too much blood is split.
Cicero was all too horrifyingly right.
 
Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank and the rest of the world, have witnessed what the so called invincible IDF have done over the years. Pushing old men and women to the ground and kicking them, harassing teenage girls, headlocking young children, standing by and watching settler colonists attack mosques and shoving worshippers. That sort of behaviour doesn't put the fear into anyone. So much so that young kids and girls will stand up to them. The veneer of a disciplined military has been thrown out the window.
We know from occupied Ireland, the hard the military pushed against nationalist people e.g concentration camp interment in the H Blocks recruitment shot up for the IRA. After the Derry atrocities again an up turn in recruitment.
Hamas's type organisations are a constant and they get bigger and bigger, more bolder and bolder with each passing generation.
In the past, they would be an incident and within a week or two it'd subside with some compromise or other. Usually brokered by the US with support from Middle Eastern countries, because the Palestinians were generally always left on their own. There was a bit of tub thumping from Arab leaders. What is different now is those countries that tub thumped and didn't really do anything, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc. with some suffering terribly because of the US and they sre still angry even after they've kicked the US out. The US has very few friends in the Middle East. The Saudis have all but ditched them. The Taliban who've never really been interested in Palestine are talking getting involved with the billions of dollar military equipment left by the US when they were kicked out.
In a load of capitals in the Middle East there are huge demonstrations. That has happened in the past but now they are more angry.
This is before the really thorny issue of what will Hezbollah do. The IDF fear these more than anything. Theyve gained military experience in Syria when they successfully routed anti Assad forces. They sit on a huge missile stockpile 40 000 plus and have fighters itching for a fight. While Hamas and Hezbollah were on different sides iin Syria they've now fully reconciled.i
The IDF will be hoping there is some compromise or other, because they'll not relish going into the Gaza strip, and fighting against adults. Just like they didn't in Beirut in 1982. This could well be a seminal moment in the Palestinians quest to get all their land back, all their businesses back, all their homes back and feel like first class citizens in their whole country.
 
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