Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Blue 1]

I think this is the issue tbh. Palestinians and Israelis could live together fine. Unfortunately Palestine has been effectively taken over by Hamas, a terrorist group. It is they who fire the rockets and invade, kill and abduct Israelis not the Palestinians. The problem is how to get rid of Hamas, who have brought absolutely no benefit to the Gaza Strip, but who continually poke Israelis in the eye. Get rid of Hamas and the two communities will get along fine. Hamas doesn’t give a crap about the Gaza Strip nor the two million people who may suffer the consequences of their abhorrent actions. Get rid of Hamas and life will be better for everyone……..

Naive in the extreme.

 

[Tipp blue]

Ah, by forcibly taking it off someone else?! Can you claim something after 2000 years? Should the Native American and Australians try the same? They were only booted out 300 years ago. Perhaps they should ghettoise all the people in the cities and forcibly evict the people in the villages and farms.

It’s a pathetic justification for murder and oppression im afraid

Of course the big difference being that the war, oppression and persecution in Israel (or other names) has been pretty much ongoing for thousands of years regardless of the main aggressor. There has never been a lasting peace.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Of course the big difference being that the war, oppression and persecution in Israel (or other names) has been pretty much ongoing for thousands of years regardless of the main aggressor. There has never been a lasting peace.

WHat ha this got to do with the Palestinians though? You're justification for their treatment is that "some" Jews (some because over 50% of Jews in Israel have no lineage at all to the place, they are a different collection of Jews from Europe). were there 2000 years ago and therefore it is OK to persecute the current inhabitants (who were also there 2000 years ago) and yet not OK for the natives of other countries to do the same. There is no reason or logic to your argument only bias against the people of Palestine.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Clearly the question I was asked was answered.

You're now changing my words from a temporary solution to a permanent one.

Clearly the Palestinians move back to Gaza and buildings will be rebuilt -- as has happened in Germany and other places over decades when these situations arise.

Your Hamas point makes no sense, just shows you are deflecting from pointing the fingers at a terror group.

No the thread title is totally incorrect and disgusting.

Evertonians who supported Mykolenko and Ukraine have been rightly praised.

If we had a Jewish, (or simply an Israeli) player then reading this thread title and posts from people like yourself...

They would (quite rightly) be disgusted at the lack of emotional support and constant deflection away from blaming a terror group for atrocities.

The title and some posts in here i have no doubt would be considered vile.

If you disagree, youre welcome to openly share your views with Israelis.

So you just want to make millions of Palestinians homeless for a few decades then?

Anyone linked this to Russia, Ukraine and NATO expansion yet? Did you really think Russia would just take the sanctions, and arming Ukraine without causing issues for the west?

The lefts hating of Israel and Jews is nothing short of a disgrace. The socialists have a long history of hating Jews.

The comments in here, and title of this thread are disgusting but not surprising from the anti hate, hating left.

Evertonians have a long history of left leaning politics. As has the whole city. You might want to be aware of that chum

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Israel is a Terrorist state, who have stolen land and murdered thousands over the years.

I condemn them.

Hamas is a Terrorist organisation, who have murdered thousands over the years.

I condemn them.

Neither deserve media support, the Israeli and Palestinian people deserve support, only 1 of them seems to be getting it.

The best post on GOT this year.

 

[Tipp blue]

WHat ha this got to do with the Palestinians though? You're justification for their treatment is that "some" Jews (some because over 50% of Jews in Israel have no lineage at all to the place, they are a different collection of Jews from Europe). were there 2000 years ago and therefore it is OK to persecute the current inhabitants (who were also there 2000 years ago) and yet not OK for the natives of other countries to do the same. There is no reason or logic to your argument only bias against the people of Palestine.

Bias against hamas... 100% not Bias against the people of Palestine.. I've said multiple times on here that Isreal are going about things wrongly in depriving essential services to the people of Palestine, I have also said Isreal need to rid the place of Hamas once and for all and this current war might just do that.. then who knows after that. Hamas is 100% the issue right now and aren't doing any good for Palestine.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Bias against hamas... 100% not Bias against the people of Palestine.. I've said multiple times on here that Isreal are going about things wrongly in depriving essential services to the people of Palestine, I have also said Isreal need to rid the place of Hamas once and for all and this current war might just do that.. then who knows after that. Hamas is 100% the issue right now and aren't doing any good for Palestine.

Should Israel hand back the stolen palestinian lands?

This is not about HAMAS it is about Israel, HAMAS is a result of Israel's actions. The horrific murders by Hamas would not have happened had the Palestinian people not been effed over for 50+ years

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[davek]

The old 'kin fraud has an election to fight next year.

 

[Number_25]

Show restraint.

 

[Baines' left foot]

From the leader of the most powerful country in the world that's really poor to say the least.

 

[peteblue]

Yeh, cos hamas is the issue. Have you seen the maps of Israel/Palestine over the last 60 years ?
Ffs- pathetic waffle from you Pete

I have seen the maps,but GOT posted up a very good link to a different set of maps and explained that those maps were rejected by the Palestinians themselves, then both Egypt and Jordon took a slice of the country and then the 6 day way changed the borders again. The one simple fact about Israel and Palestine is that it isn’t simple….

 

[peteblue]

pete - removing Hamas will not solve this problem by itself; the reason Hamas exists (ie: the occupation) has to be dealt with too

Of course, but first the terrorism must stop…..

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Ah, by forcibly taking it off someone else?! Can you claim something after 2000 years? Should the Native American and Australians try the same? They were only booted out 300 years ago. Perhaps they should ghettoise all the people in the cities and forcibly evict the people in the villages and farms.

It’s a pathetic justification for murder and oppression im afraid

You are ignoring the religous significance of the land and the culture(s) built around this.

 

[peteblue]

Do you genuinely believe this Pete..?

I believe it would be a good start…..