Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[dCahill17]

Hey mate, as you know I'm a fellow moderate centrist and long time fan. But the Woke thread existed as a sort of ironic joke, and your particular brand of unintelligible drivel had its place in there.

This, however, is a conversation among adults about a very serious catastrophe, and I don't know if screaming about wokes every 5 seconds is contributing anything. Maybe check out our fridge thread: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/show-us-your-fridge.116252/. Lots of wokes with a lot of woke things in their fridge, a fantastic place to fly the banner for moderate centrism imo!

Calling out and providing evidence of the antisemitic / anti Israel agenda in the Labour Party and its supporters is not adult discussion? Let me guess you don’t like the truth?

All you have to do is look at the way you lot are acting on here, right down to the name of the thread.

As a centrist I hate racists of the far left and far right. It truly is amazing watching you absolute fools talk utter garbage.

 

[Wizard]

Hinkle is another person that people should be very wary of posting, but that was really bizarre from Curtis - not only is there Arabic clearly visible in the background, but she's tagged in the photojournalist too.

The kindest possible interpretation is that she was trying to say these are Gaza kids looking at terror from the Israelis and then been told to wind her neck in; I appreciate that makes very little sense but trying to pretend those were Israeli kids makes even less.

The Israeli flag in the comment would suggest she thinks they are Israeli kids

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Calling out and providing evidence of the antisemitic / anti Israel agenda in the Labour Party and its supporters is not adult discussion? Let me guess you don’t like the truth?

All you have to do is look at the way you lot are acting on here, right down to the name of the thread.

As a centrist I hate racists of the far left and far right. It truly is amazing watching you absolute fools talk utter garbage.

What do you think the way out of the current situation is?

 

[Taifi gorm]

Egypt warned Israel days before Hamas struck, US committee chairman says

But PM Benjamin Netanyahu describes any claim Israel received a specific warning as "totally fake news".

www.bbc.com

If the Egyptians were warning Israeli then so were others. Some countries and organisations will be seething knowing their citizens are dead or kidnapped and facing a bombing rampage despite their warnings.

 

[Wizard]

What do you think the way out of the current situation is?

Maybe if we all stopped being such wokey pokeys and started behaving more like jokey blokeys and all did the Hokey Cokey

 

[Milkman]

What do you think the way out of the current situation is?

He can't find the way out of his own arsehole mate, he needs booting back to 4chan asap

 

[Tin-Tin]

Long read, but worth it.

This bit for me

"Am I pro-Israel or pro-Palestine? I have no idea.
I'm pro-not-killing-civilians.
I'm pro-not-trapping-millions-of-people-in-open-air-prisons.
I'm pro-not-shooting-grandmas-in-the-back-of-the-head.
I'm pro-not-flattening-apartment-complexes.
I'm pro-not-raping-women-and-taking-hostages.
I'm pro-not-unjustly-imprisoning-people-without-due-process.
I'm pro-freedom and pro-peace and pro- all the things we never see in this conflict anymore

Whatever this is, I want none of it."

Excellent thread that

 

[tsubaki]

The Israeli flag in the comment would suggest she thinks they are Israeli kids

She has an Israeli flag beneath her name...

I know, and as I said the kindest possible interpretation is that she was trying to make a point and got told to take it down. That makes very little sense but otherwise I really cannot see how it makes any sense at all for someone to go to the page of a photojournalist from Gaza, who has a clearly Islamic name, pick out a photo where there is Arabic writing all over the background, tag the photojournalist in to the image and pretend they are Israeli kids.

 

[peteblue]

Long read, but worth it.

This bit for me

"Am I pro-Israel or pro-Palestine? I have no idea.
I'm pro-not-killing-civilians.
I'm pro-not-trapping-millions-of-people-in-open-air-prisons.
I'm pro-not-shooting-grandmas-in-the-back-of-the-head.
I'm pro-not-flattening-apartment-complexes.
I'm pro-not-raping-women-and-taking-hostages.
I'm pro-not-unjustly-imprisoning-people-without-due-process.
I'm pro-freedom and pro-peace and pro- all the things we never see in this conflict anymore

Whatever this is, I want none of it."

I think this is the issue tbh. Palestinians and Israelis could live together fine. Unfortunately Palestine has been effectively taken over by Hamas, a terrorist group. It is they who fire the rockets and invade, kill and abduct Israelis not the Palestinians. The problem is how to get rid of Hamas, who have brought absolutely no benefit to the Gaza Strip, but who continually poke Israelis in the eye. Get rid of Hamas and the two communities will get along fine. Hamas doesn’t give a crap about the Gaza Strip nor the two million people who may suffer the consequences of their abhorrent actions. Get rid of Hamas and life will be better for everyone……..

 

[Martin Alvito]

Calling out and providing evidence of the antisemitic / anti Israel agenda in the Labour Party and its supporters is not adult discussion? Let me guess you don’t like the truth?

All you have to do is look at the way you lot are acting on here, right down to the name of the thread.

As a centrist I hate racists of the far left and far right. It truly is amazing watching you absolute fools talk utter garbage.

Criticism of Israeli government policy and antisemitism are not one and the same. Conflating the two cheapens the latter.

 

[mightymoyes]

 

[davek]

I know, and as I said the kindest possible interpretation is that she was trying to make a point and got told to take it down. That makes very little sense but otherwise I really cannot see how it makes any sense at all for someone to go to the page of a photojournalist from Gaza, who has a clearly Islamic name, pick out a photo where there is Arabic writing all over the background, tag the photojournalist in to the image and pretend they are Israeli kids.

Occam's razor: she's 'kin thick.

 

[dCahill17]

Criticism of Israeli government policy and antisemitism are not one and the same. Conflating the two cheapens the latter.

True but they’re often not far apart, the left have a real anti Jewish problem, always have done.

What do you think the way out of the current situation is?

The generally accepted wisdom is a two state solution. Not happening any time soon.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I think this is the issue tbh. Palestinians and Israelis could live together fine. Unfortunately Palestine has been effectively taken over by Hamas, a terrorist group. It is they who fire the rockets and invade, kill and abduct Israelis not the Palestinians. The problem is how to get rid of Hamas, who have brought absolutely no benefit to the Gaza Strip, but who continually poke Israelis in the eye. Get rid of Hamas and the two communities will get along fine. Hamas doesn’t give a crap about the Gaza Strip nor the two million people who may suffer the consequences of their abhorrent actions. Get rid of Hamas and life will be better for everyone……..

Yeh, cos hamas is the issue. Have you seen the maps of Israel/Palestine over the last 60 years ?
Ffs- pathetic waffle from you Pete

 

[mightymoyes]

True but they’re often not far apart, the left have a real anti Jewish problem, always have done.



The generally accepted wisdom is a two state solution. Not happening any time soon.

Coming from the raging antisemite lol