Farhad Moshiri: Ronald Koeman Statement

[Connor]

FFS

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Of course it's bleeding obvious. He was trying to say that we'd lost games that looking back on you'd not have necessarily expected us to win - which you wouldn't. Burnley being the exception.

Part of what's wrong with the club is that the ground is a morgue and is a hindrance to the players rather than a benefit.

Koeman has made mistakes this season, he's got a couple of weeks on the training ground to sort it. If he doesn't get it right at Brighton then he'll be toast irrespective of Moshiri's comments today imo.

That's a chicken or the egg situation though

Ultimately that's a result of decisions being made from above

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

That's a chicken or the egg situation though

Ultimately that's a result of decisions being made from above

To an extent it is, but it's counter productive when the side are lacking confidence and the crowd are sat there in complete silence. It's been getting worse and worse for years, but of late it's been truly awful.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

To an extent it is, but it's counter productive when the side are lacking confidence and the crowd are sat there in complete silence. It's been getting worse and worse for years, but of late it's been truly awful.

You can't just conjure up enthusiasm though, especially if you love the club and it's kicking you in your very soul to see them playing so badly

It's like watching someone you care about slowly die on a life support machine

I think you have to sit in the middle of it to understand why it happens

 

[ijjysmith]

FFS

This sums it up well

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

You can't just conjure up enthusiasm though, especially if you love the club and it's kicking you in your very soul to see them playing so badly

It's like watching someone you care about slowly die on a life support machine

I think you have to sit in the middle of it to understand why it happens

I do and I'm as culpable as everyone else at times, but it's still gash.

 

[ToffeeTim]

To an extent it is, but it's counter productive when the side are lacking confidence and the crowd are sat there in complete silence. It's been getting worse and worse for years, but of late it's been truly awful.

We haven't won away since January either. It's hardly the fans fault. Goodison actually was much more tamer than you'd usually expect given what was being served up.

 

[riddick]

This is a terrible statement. Ffs....

 

[4737carlin]

7 injuries ? Only Bolasie and Coleman I would expect to be starting, we knew they were out ages before the season started so why not get a solid replacement in? The money was there, not having this as a reason for being so bad

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

My issues with the statement.

Unexpected losses. Ffs how small minded are Everton to not go into the first games and try and win them? We expected to lose them, wow. Why should the players or fans be arsed if the owner doesn't care we lost then games? Yea the teams are better than us and they were difficult games but even losing to spurs or Chelsea should be hard to take for anyone at this club. We aren't meant to lose games therefore any loss is unexpected. How do we plan to win European trophies if we aren't surprised at losing against the very first team we play in the competition proper ?

Also mental and physical fatigue? On October 1st? Really? After using 23 players so far? How are we meant to have a winning mentality if we believe we are mentally and physically fatigued so quickly? How do we win trophies then with all the added games? And why don't actual successful clubs cry fatigue after only 6 weeks of a 9 month season?

The statement personally, is a joke and represents to me the same small minded belief that this club has had for 20 years now. Where is the passion and drive? It's not coming from anyone at the club clearly. So why as a fan should I care? I shouldn't be bothered about us getting beat by teams above us as they are classed as expected so why should I believe in the team when the owner doesn't?

I am not sure Burnley viewed Sunday's game as an expected loss.

 

[Jamiednm]

If things don't change significantly, I am expecting close to 31 more loses in this league campaign.

 

[abelard]

Sacking Koeman would only be the first step. You would also have to replace him, most likely the entire coaching them, and probably half a dozen players to accommodate whoever we could find to replace him, which at this stage of the season is basically nobody.

He turned things around last year, and has done so throughout his career. There isn't any sense in sacking him until we get much closer to the transfer window, when we could begin to contemplate how an actual replacement plan - instead of petulant instinctive lashing out - could take shape.

 

[Frang]

Stopped reading at "unexpected loss". I don't accept a manager, chairman or owner of Everton to expect a loss.

That said, I had so little confidence in Koeman that I did actually expect the loss yesterday but I just couldn't bring myself to bet against us even at the 5/1 odds for Burnley.

I gotta admit to informing all my friends to lump on burnley at 9/2. I would never do that, but having watched us 10 times this year, I knew exactly what was coming.

glad my friends profited to be honest.

 

[faddy the blue]

For the worse or for the better?

For the better than having Unsy takeover who will be slaughtered by our impatient fans calling him a useless inexperienced u23 manager come Xmas. If people want Koeman out so bad, then Walsh should be crucified too. People will then call for his head next if he stays at Everton and later realise it wasn't all Koeman's fault.

We think we are some team that has a divine right to be in CL and win cup and have become extremely impatient cos we spent 150M so we get the right to call for every manager's head the moment things go south.

Said it repeatedly since yesterday, give Koeman this season so that we can plan a replacement if we can find a better one. This team is way better than its showing. Same I believe for Koeman. He's not a Guardiola or Pochettino but he is the best we can get right now, unless we want to take a blind gamble on anyone else.

 

[faddy the blue]

Think Koeman has lost the Goodison faithful big time mate.

Mate Wenger has lost half of Arsenal fanbase over last 3 years cos of same stuff season in, season out and has got them out of CL too this season. Where are all those fans calling for "Wenger Out" banner now? We as fans are very hysterical. Right now they are still content with him and the team inspite knowing they will lose Sanchez. Why? Cos they are in a good form currently.

I am disappointed in us as fans who even before this bad run of form saw Goodison atmosphere on a decline cos we wanted to be entertained on regular basis as if its our divine right. We only want to support the team when its playing decent football. But where has our patience and support gone in bad times? Even in Moyes' last few season, we started every season poorly (except his last), lost derbies regularly, lost all big matches away, used to win an odd game at Goodison vs the big guns and finished in 9th to 7th on avg after goimg through difficult periods. That too with a good enough team at that time. We criticised Moyes for his tactics and negative football but we stuck through the times. So why after 2 months of bad form should we call for Koeman's neck? Who next then will be the solution? Its not like we've been qualifying for CLs and winning titles that we should sack him now. We're a work in progress. Why can't fans see that?