Everton: we look an unhappy camp

[Ernie]

Whatever mate clearly stick with your "bigger picture" which involves sacking a good manager after 13 games whilst we sit 7th 5 points off 5th after 2 previous seasons of bottom half finishes.

Show me the post where I said we should sack him now?

 

[Frank Gallagher]

our best player by far this season is opne of the new faces. thats no surprise. let koeman get 4 more new faces in , in jan, and lets see what happens from there.

if we dont get at least 4 new faces in, then we are in for an almighty struggle.

 

[windymiller]

Whatever mate clearly stick with your "bigger picture" which involves sacking a good manager after 13 games whilst we sit 7th 5 points off 5th after 2 previous seasons of bottom half finishes.

This is a weird thing to be promoting as a great thing after 12 games. You could just as easily say 8 points off 17th which would be equally pointless. No one (sensible) is proposing sacking Koeman but we also shouldn't be pretending that everything is going great either, given results (and more importantly performances) over the past few weeks.

 

[Lanolin]

our best player by far this season is opne of the new faces. thats no surprise. let koeman get 4 more new faces in , in jan, and lets see what happens from there.

if we dont get at least 4 new faces in, then we are in for an almighty struggle.

But why should the manager need 'at least' 9 new players before he can prevent us being in an almighty struggle? It makes no sense.

I sound like I'm anti Koeman at the moment but I'm really not. I just think a lot of people are falling into the same trap as they did with Martinez, making excuses as to why it's not his fault and saying it'll all be ok when x happens.

This group of players is not that bad, they absolutely do not need replacing entirely. What they need is to be coached into a cohesive unit and used in a way that plays to their strengths rather than highlights their weaknesses.

 

[Aulty]

Don't know if the forum be able to handle the fume if we lose to The Saints.

 

[The Rhino]

This is a weird thing to be promoting as a great thing after 12 games. You could just as easily say 8 points off 17th which would be equally pointless. No one (sensible) is proposing sacking Koeman but we also shouldn't be pretending that everything is going great either, given results (and more importantly performances) over the past few weeks.

All I'm saying is get behind the manager and team and not bitch after what 12/13 games when we knew this season would be one of transition, More so than ever after our poor transfer window. Judge after 1 and 1/2 seasons Koeman is picking up the pieces of a failed regime and needs time and investment to make it right.

 

[windymiller]

Don't know if the forum be able to handle the fume if we lose to The Saints.

And they are going to be gunning for their old boss which is usually a bit of a problem. Good news is that they have an European away day on Thursday which should help us a bit.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Players are rich, perhaps happy with no passion or direction. They seem out of synch with the coaching. It shouldn't take a coach yelling at them to improve at halftime against a bottom club after a international break. Send the youth in enmass and make a big statement. Lethargic beyond belief the last couple of games. I know most fans are fed up with all the excuses. Just play the damn game with purpose that's all we ask.

 

[Minimeister]

 

[l4toffee]

It's not after a solitary defeat, Eggs. This is a third of the season in and an appraisal of where we stand right now and where we're headed once half the season is over (which will be the case after the Leicester game away on Boxing Day).

I dont like the runes I'm reading here, the mood music is all wrong and it's a concern after a bright start has been thrown away and looks more and more like an initial new manager boost rather than the arrival of a better method.

you are Graeme jones you BAD WOOL

 

[l4toffee]

Where's the evidence for that Dave? Conjecture or evidence based?

You can get better scran than chips and mayo by selling those 2 frauds

 

[Zatara]

Has he praised them when they've done well though Zat? That seems a better approach than praising them continuously, even when they've obviously been a load of rubbish.

lol not really had much to praise has he?

Slated Barkley then praised him + praised gana obviously...barry too as hes a key cog...and lukaku before he pimped him out...

 

[l4toffee]

I see this quite a lot on here, Its a forum to discuss our club, Obviously people will have differing opinions, Sly digs are very petty and uncalled for imo

WOOL

 

[Zatara]

When Valencia ran on to the pitch at San Mamés last night, Athletic gave them a guard of honour; by the time they trudged off the pitch at San Mamés, Athletic had given them a kicking. The side that hadn't managed to score more than twice at home all season and that had only once scored three - when they visited Valencia - had banged in five. Five more nails in Koeman's coffin. "The dressing room," said Raúl Albiol, "is a funeral" - and the funeral was Koeman's.

There are some fantastic quotes and stories about his time at valencia...i had taken an interest in them as i liked some of their players...then koeman took over and theyve been on a downward spiral ever since.

 

[l4toffee]

The players are king mate, If you can't get a tune out of them you are screwed

This is true