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A poker up the arse! :blink:
Season's openers are usually oddities - gamblers always discount them (wish the league did) - the two things that worry me most on this one;
If any potential signings watched after being told how good we are
And this match showed some really bad management decisions - that's something we used to do! Maybe the backroom stuff is causing more grief than I thought.
Good to see Pienaar still wants to play, even if others are elsewhere.
Exactly what I said to my wife as we slunk away after the 5th goal went in
BlueTak
Player Valuation: £35m
Same thing happening to me...
Come on you Spurs!!!
Who are we playing next the OS says Citeh on wednesday, but we play the Sigma Olomouc on thursday???? :blink::blink::blink:
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
Good tags on this thread.
Dom1878
Player Valuation: £60m
What a great match...
...Firstly, Hibbert + Osman = Worst Right side in the premier league.
Also, Moyes is playing Cahill in a useless position, so why play him there? Both Saha and Jo to me are not good enough to play against the 'top 4' teams, so lets just stick fellaini and cahill upfront.
Im quite happy with Moyes's subsitutions, its exactly what i wouldve done...well maybe vaughan instead of Saha :s...Hibbert and Osman just couldnt mark at all and it ruined us...
...Jo needs to learn the offside rule, Hibbert needs to learn how to cross, Yobo needs to learn that hoofing is not always the answer, and Moyes needs to learn how to drop the players he likes the most.
...Firstly, Hibbert + Osman = Worst Right side in the premier league.
Also, Moyes is playing Cahill in a useless position, so why play him there? Both Saha and Jo to me are not good enough to play against the 'top 4' teams, so lets just stick fellaini and cahill upfront.
Im quite happy with Moyes's subsitutions, its exactly what i wouldve done...well maybe vaughan instead of Saha :s...Hibbert and Osman just couldnt mark at all and it ruined us...
...Jo needs to learn the offside rule, Hibbert needs to learn how to cross, Yobo needs to learn that hoofing is not always the answer, and Moyes needs to learn how to drop the players he likes the most.
ToxtethBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
How can you have a go at the strikers? Saha's scored twice against the top four already, not good enough? Sort it out Dom.
It should be Cahill or Fellaini, not both, that was very clear today. And we need a centre mid who can pass and ball whilst Arteta's out.
Your right about the midfield but nothing will happen with that lying prik kenwright in charge.
Dom1878
Player Valuation: £60m
Hmm quite easily, Did jo actually do anything today? I new he was on the pitch, but only from the people behind me shouting "GET THE **** ONSIDE JO"
Without going off at other supporters, which would be fairly easy for us all at the moment given our state of mind, how come Hibbert gets the most criticism when he was probably least at fault out of any of our back five for the defeat today?
I mean, I would have been happy with Naughton or Neville giving him competition, but was no-one watching Yobo or Baines?
I mean, I would have been happy with Naughton or Neville giving him competition, but was no-one watching Yobo or Baines?
Tennessee Blue Mike
Player Valuation: £50m
Player Ratings: Everton 1-6 Arsenal
Everton were treated to a harsh opening day lesson, as their defensive errors played into the hands of a rampant Arsenal...
15 Aug 2009 19:45:35
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EVERTON
Tim Howard: 5.5 -
Was beaten by a fashionably maligned midfielder in the first-half, but kept strong mitts from corner kicks and crosses to deny Arsenal's incoming headers a coveted opportunity on goal. Should have done better with Arsenal's fourth. Conceded six.
Tony Hibbert: 4.0 -
Had little positive action and was duly brought off for burgeoning talent Jack Rodwell.
Joseph Yobo: 5.0 -
Failed to track and follow Vermaelen for the Arsenal defender's goal, in an act that would surely have had David Moyes cursing.
Joleon Lescott: 6.5 -
One mistake, a casual slip, almost allowed Arshavin to capitalise but the Russian was blocked by the England international's recovery. His mistakes were few and far between, unlike his defensive team-mates.
Leighton Baines: 6.0 -
Tried to get forward when possible, even if it meant going searching for the ball.
Leon Osman: 6.0 -
Occasionally found space on the right to work, but was shunted out of action. Was one part of a three-way substitution just before the hour mark.
Tim Cahill: 6.5 -
His aerial ability belies his relatively small stature. A fine runner, as was evident when he snuck past Vermaelen but his control was a touch heavy and Almunia was able to smother the attack.
Phil Neville: 5.5 -
Struggled to cope with Arsenal's midfield dominance.
Steven Pienaar: 6.0 -
Looked to pick up from his sterling showing in the Confederations Cup with South Africa. Some good play. Couldn't establish himself in this game, though.
Marouane Fellaini: 6.5 -
Imposed himself as a towering presence early on. Was also central to a few impressive one-touch passages of play. A crisp passer of the football. When his side weren't in possession, he could be found willingly trying to retrieve it. Tried hard for the goal, thought he'd scored, but Denilson had something to say about it.
Jo: 5.0 -
Got a couple decent touches in the first half but, for the lion's share of the opening 45, the majority of play was behind him. He was therefore out of the picture.
Subs
Jack Rodwell: N/a -
Dan Gosling: N/a -
Louis Saha: 7.0 -
Had a good chance on goal within five minutes of his introduction to the game, but the better talking points in the pub will probably focus on his strange hair. Struck a consolation effort in the 93rd.
Everton were treated to a harsh opening day lesson, as their defensive errors played into the hands of a rampant Arsenal...
15 Aug 2009 19:45:35
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Cesc Fabregas, Everton, Arsenal, Dani Jarque (PA)
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EVERTON
Tim Howard: 5.5 -
Was beaten by a fashionably maligned midfielder in the first-half, but kept strong mitts from corner kicks and crosses to deny Arsenal's incoming headers a coveted opportunity on goal. Should have done better with Arsenal's fourth. Conceded six.
Tony Hibbert: 4.0 -
Had little positive action and was duly brought off for burgeoning talent Jack Rodwell.
Joseph Yobo: 5.0 -
Failed to track and follow Vermaelen for the Arsenal defender's goal, in an act that would surely have had David Moyes cursing.
Joleon Lescott: 6.5 -
One mistake, a casual slip, almost allowed Arshavin to capitalise but the Russian was blocked by the England international's recovery. His mistakes were few and far between, unlike his defensive team-mates.
Leighton Baines: 6.0 -
Tried to get forward when possible, even if it meant going searching for the ball.
Leon Osman: 6.0 -
Occasionally found space on the right to work, but was shunted out of action. Was one part of a three-way substitution just before the hour mark.
Tim Cahill: 6.5 -
His aerial ability belies his relatively small stature. A fine runner, as was evident when he snuck past Vermaelen but his control was a touch heavy and Almunia was able to smother the attack.
Phil Neville: 5.5 -
Struggled to cope with Arsenal's midfield dominance.
Steven Pienaar: 6.0 -
Looked to pick up from his sterling showing in the Confederations Cup with South Africa. Some good play. Couldn't establish himself in this game, though.
Marouane Fellaini: 6.5 -
Imposed himself as a towering presence early on. Was also central to a few impressive one-touch passages of play. A crisp passer of the football. When his side weren't in possession, he could be found willingly trying to retrieve it. Tried hard for the goal, thought he'd scored, but Denilson had something to say about it.
Jo: 5.0 -
Got a couple decent touches in the first half but, for the lion's share of the opening 45, the majority of play was behind him. He was therefore out of the picture.
Subs
Jack Rodwell: N/a -
Dan Gosling: N/a -
Louis Saha: 7.0 -
Had a good chance on goal within five minutes of his introduction to the game, but the better talking points in the pub will probably focus on his strange hair. Struck a consolation effort in the 93rd.
ToxtethBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
Did any of the midfield, bar Pienaar, look for the ball?
A striker can only work with what he's got. You can't have a go at him when most of the passes he's getting are head height.
neville
Player Valuation: £30m
Evening Toffees
It could be worse ( Honestly)
In an attempt to cheer you all up
Imagine how I felt last year when your despicable neighbours beat us 4 -1 at old Trafford I was on the Stretford end and near suicidal for about two weeks
I came on this forum in the days after and cheered up a bit with a bit of banter and support from you
Didnt see the game was it that bad were Arsenal that Good ?
Early Season you see anything can happen
Anyway you will bounce back and City will crumble trust me
It could be worse ( Honestly)
In an attempt to cheer you all up
Imagine how I felt last year when your despicable neighbours beat us 4 -1 at old Trafford I was on the Stretford end and near suicidal for about two weeks
I came on this forum in the days after and cheered up a bit with a bit of banter and support from you
Didnt see the game was it that bad were Arsenal that Good ?
Early Season you see anything can happen
Anyway you will bounce back and City will crumble trust me
BigBlueConk
Player Valuation: £70m
Well, that was special. Thanks boys, waited all summer for that. 
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