Current Affairs EU In or Out

[tmgc]

It is mostly about the EU- Japan Deal . Even if we stayed within the EU, the removal of tariffs on cars and car parts would have taken the Japanese manufacturing back home. The Japanese are an island race who don’t really like outsiders, they put up with us and they trade with us as I did for many years, but they are not a multicultural country, they believe in looking after their own. This decision, if it comes to pass, is a fairly obvious consequence of their deal.......

Aren't the tariffs on cars not fully removed till 2027 ?

 

[peteblue]

So you are prejudiced against yourself then. Understandable.

The sort of adults that think you can't have a genuine opinion on something if your surname doesn't correspond to it? That sort of adult?

Lads I know that you don’t understand these things. And we can all see that you cannot hold a reasonable conversation without getting a little group of you to try and demean comments from posters. When you all stop acting as a group and try behaving in an adult manner you will be treated accordingly. Until then you just come across as just the little bigoted Irish Group........

 

[peteblue]

Given this seems to be the historic position of the Japanese and the current desire of the UK, I'm surprised that you seemed so enthusiastic and expectant of a Japanese-UK deal.

It works both ways. If a deal is done then the Japanese market will open for Range Rover and Jaguar......,and there’s nearly twice as many Japanese as British drivers.....

 

[peteblue]

Aren't the tariffs on cars not fully removed till 2027 ?

That’s a good point....what is the yearly movement ?.......

 

[tmgc]

That’s a good point....what is the yearly movement ?.......

Unsure Pete ?

 

[peteblue]

Unsure Pete ?

Yeah, I’ll have to look it up if you don’t have it....I thought it was binary and not descending, but we need to know.....

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

Just answer the question.....

Do yourself a favour Pete, and give it up. You couldn't answer me directly so started this bizarre argument of telling me to read through 2,000 pages to get an answer that you could give on a yes/no basis. You exposed yourself yet again. You told a porkie and got sussed, that's about the heap of it.

Laughable...

 

[edge]

Don’t be silly Edge, it must be because of Brexit.....surely, everything else is....

seems so mate,might be worth a few looking at employment rights for workers in Japan v EU/UK start of with things like article 36( i think it is of the top of my head ) of there employment law that lets them work much longer hours/days if the company applies for it, exempts them from how many hours and days they work if the worker agrees, a lot of whom like here haven't got long term contracts these days, been a huge rise in that over there the worker is hardly likely to object in that scenario.
Managers don't get paid for overtime in certain scenarios either.
So not surprising they are looking at their homeland for workers, now the tariffs are coming off
Mostly just waiting till it's all over with now myself Pete with brexit , nothing really to add anymore that hasn't been said already, but if the signs around the world economically are to be believed we are in for turbulent times either within the EU or out of it ,so we will have something else to talk about soon enough.

 

[peteblue]

Do yourself a favour Pete, and give it up. You couldn't answer me directly so started this bizarre argument of telling me to read through 2,000 pages to get an answer that you could give on a yes/no basis. You exposed yourself yet again. You told a porkie and got sussed, that's about the heap of it.

Laughable...

When you asked the question, you only had to read back about ten pages max. I don’t like lazy posters......

 

[Jebus_lives]

Brexit is not a factor......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46826345

Japanese bank blames Brexit for move to Amsterdam

Norinchukin announces plan day after Shinzō Abe offered public backing for May’s deal

www.theguardian.com

Prime Minister of Japan on how Brexit could impact Nissan and Hitachi

Japanese firms such as Nissan and Hitachi are major employers in the North East and Japan's Prime Minister says the Brexit deal will allow investment to continue

www.chroniclelive.co.uk

Japan’s Abe says whole world wants UK to avoid no-deal Brexit

Japanese prime minister ‘in full support of the draft withdrawal agreement’

www.ft.com

Japan Waves Goodbye to U.K. as ‘Gateway to Europe’ Post-Brexit

After a February meeting between U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May and 19 Japanese business chiefs, Tokyo’s ambassador to Britain warned what might happen if Brexit took an unfavorable turn for foreign investors.

www.bloomberg.com

Japan Inc. fears a 'no-deal Brexit' and harm to Europe operations

Some companies look to rebalance investment toward EU, Nikkei survey says

asia.nikkei.com

Japan's Message to the United Kingdom and the European Union
PDFhttps://www.mofa.go.jp › files

I see a free trade agreement has been set up with Japan, excellent news. Japan wishes to do exactly the same with the U.K. when we leave the EU, also excellent news. It’s looking like we would be better off with a swift clean break from the EU so that the shackles can be thrown off and our exporters can get on with their jobs......

UK-Japan trade talks sour after letter from Hunt and Fox

Tokyo baffled at UK foreign and trade ministers’ tactics on eve of meeting

www.ft.com

'UK-Japan trade talks sour after letter from Hunt and Fox'

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Lads I know that you don’t understand these things. And we can all see that you cannot hold a reasonable conversation without getting a little group of you to try and demean comments from posters. When you all stop acting as a group and try behaving in an adult manner you will be treated accordingly. Until then you just come across as just the little bigoted Irish Group........

lollollol

That is just about as demeaning, condescending and patronising as it is possible to be.

Seems you've had had one pint too many of that full strength 17.4% John Bull this evening. Yet again.

 

[peteblue]

seems so mate,might be worth a few looking at employment rights for workers in Japan v EU/UK start of with things like article 36( i think it is of the top of my head ) of there employment law that lets them work much longer hours/days if the company applies for it, exempts them from how many hours and days they work if the worker agrees, a lot of whom like here haven't got long term contracts these days, been a huge rise in that over there the worker is hardly likely to object in that scenario.
Managers don't get paid for overtime in certain scenarios either.
So not surprising they are looking at their homeland for workers, now the tariffs are coming off
Mostly just waiting till it's all over with now myself Pete with brexit , nothing really to add anymore that hasn't been said already, but if the signs around the world economically are to be believed we are in for turbulent times either within the EU or out of it ,so we will have something else to talk about soon enough.

Indeed mate. There are some on here who can’t get their brain around the advantages of free trade and the benefits to their home country. Brexit will just roll on. Eiether we will leave or we will be stitched up. Whichever party ignores the referendum will pay the price........

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

When you asked the question, you only had to read back about ten pages max. I don’t like lazy posters......

Pathetic. You could even answer the question now, but I suspect I know the reason why you won't. Why? Because you deliberately lied, not a mistake but a deliberate lie you told. Yes or no?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Lads I know that you don’t understand these things. And we can all see that you cannot hold a reasonable conversation without getting a little group of you to try and demean comments from posters. When you all stop acting as a group and try behaving in an adult manner you will be treated accordingly. Until then you just come across as just the little bigoted Irish Group........

Because I assume your Irish heritage goes back more than one generation. Varadkar while being born in Ireland is of Indian background and spent many years thereafter there. Many Indians still have a hang up about the British Raj, as Obama did about Kenya. It happens. This is not racist, this is a belonging to a certain background or wish. It’s like Irish American politicians supporting the IRA. It’s emotive but not necessarily constructive.....

No mate. They removed their territorial claim, but Varadkar wants to make a name for himself.

Like many people on here, I’m of pure Irish descent. My family trace back to the time of kings of Ireland. I have one of the oldest surnames in Ireland and am proud of it. But I cannot abide Varadkar, a good old Irish name, causing trouble between Ireland and the U.K. for political reasons.

I want our two countries to be together, separate, but as one, just like Wales and Scotland. Not a political union, but a union of similar people, as we indeed are. We have our differences, we have our arguments, but at the end of the day we are more family than anyone else in Europe.....

I don’t trust him. It may be irrational, but I don’t trust him, I think he is screwing everyone up.....

I'll just leave this here and the rest of the forum can make their own decision about who is a bigot.

 

[Jebus_lives]

This thread is a hoot when @peteblue comes on after a skin full shouting the odds and throwing out insults all the while asking for 'adult debate'