Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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and so with that in mind, when any negotiations with the EU are going to be pushing open immigration with the government negotiating from a position of weakness, is leaving the EU going to change this hugely?

why is it a position of weakness?
 
why is it a position of weakness?
Probably because we HAVE to make deals with them, and they don't.
It's obviously mutually beneficial for both, but MORE beneficial for us.
It becomes hard for the UK or what will be left of the UK to make individual trade agreements with individual countries in the EU.
In addition, why would the EU give positive terms to a country that's left, it would basically be encouraging other countries to leave too and go at it alone.
 
We aren't all welcome though, are we. We'd need to possess a sufficient level of skill within a particular industry that is in need of professionals from abroad in order to even stand a chance of getting a long term visa.
BINGO!!!! That's exactly the way the UK should be.
 
Ultimately, what's is the problem? Lack of jobs. Why? Because they aren't being created, not because a net migration of about 1m EU migrants are taking them.

What is it escapes you?

Jobs ARE being created - zero-hours contracts, and low-paid, part-time jobs. The jobs that are being eagerly snapped up by the EU immigrants.

The same immigrants that happily do these jobs because they HAVE to. The jobs with little protection, the jobs they expect the brit to tug their forelock & thank their masters for ffs.

Meanwhile the UK citizen is derided as 'lazy, workshy and feckless' if they want full time work but can't get it because they're being taken by some romanian or czech or what-have-ya that already has low paid, less secure work.

UK nationals have to jump through friggin' hoops before they can claim what they've paid into, and are forced to work for their dole stacking shelves at poundland....Did the EU migrants work for their dole in their own countries?

No.
 
The bit I can't get my head around is that when we negotiate with the EU, 27 countries some of which are quite small, we can't seem to get a good deal out of them but somehow we are going to muscle advantageous trade deals with the world's great powers.
 
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