2025/26 David Moyes

[Clarky cat]

What's that guys username on here then?!

Started his rant with something German so I’d say Papa Smurf = @Old Blue 2 …

 

[Joey66]

- just found this -

 

[Curtis]

I feel like we'd be 20th on sequences of two or more passes not even 10+ with the way we play lol

 

[Clarky cat]

Ssshhhhhhh …… Davey’s got this

 

[evertony]

Honestly the job of work to win the league is to compete with teams who can spend 500 mill in one window or 1 billion in a calendar year. So to compete you have to find a creative way to compete and that involves revenue generation. Moyes built a club to be in a position were it recruited and developed players to an extent that it meant 100s on million to the club, while also producing money from Europe, placement etc. Thats a platform that if done in a modern context gives you the means and platform to compete. We're year 1 of that.

If you are asking me today will i be happy with being best of the rest, qualifying for the CL, qualifying for Europe fairly regularly and being the best of the CL clubs from were he started from under Dyche, i would defo be happy.

Ambition isnt ambition without a plan mate, its just blind hope things get better. Essentially whats being argues in this thread - is juts get a better manager, its a bit of a silly plan really, there is far more nuance ad variance.

100’s of millions to the Club? In his first stint he spent £203M and brought in £160M if web figures are accurate which hardly supports the idea that he recruited and developed players at a profit. And “being the best of the CL clubs” is a bit fanciful to be honest.

 

[evertony]

They really wont mate, i think our fan base have our heads stuck in pound land when it comes to players, Dibling, Barrys fees are bog standard for potential these days. Moshiri really did a job on us.

We should be spend 100 - 150mill + a window to be standing still, the club needs at least that dropped on ittow or three more summer windows, minimum. If the club doesnt do that as a minimum it will be left behind.

As i said on Monday - we were beaten by an Axis of Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko for their goal - thats the guts on £300 mill making the difference.

If you are going to go cheap, you may as well go home.

I agree on Europe also, its fine having a plan to qualify, but football isnt linear - we have an opportunity this season we may not have next and i dont care if its a one yar adventure at this point. But i think the club look at it differently objectively.

Cunha, Mbuemo and Sesko were just shy of £208M, which really isn’t “the guts of £300M” but I get your point.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Started his rant with something German so I’d say Papa Smurf = @Old Blue 2 …

Ich bin NICHT Papa Smurf! Ich weiss nicht, wass Sie sagen.

Je ne suis pas Papa Smurf! Je ne sais pas, ce que vous avez dit.

 

[Swartzy]

Do we think anything would be different if more first choice signings were made, e.g. Fofana, Tete, Delap/Woltemade

After what we've seen this season, doubt it.

Fofana has missed most the season
Delap - doubt it.
Woltermade - Moyes would train his game out of him..

Tete - if played, yes. But after seeing the love in with O'brien

 

[jceverton]

I don't think any of the other midfielders actually enjoy playing with Gana, he makes a lot of extra work for them, taking them away from their actual duties to cover for his various escapades around the pitch. As others have stated it would be interesting watching us try a proper flat 3 in the middle.

You mean like we did at Villa. Personally i'd be trying Garner, Armstrong and KDH between now and the end of the season in this role.

 

[RD2910]

I have never understood continually playing players out of position. It’s just a complete bizarre concept to me

A team of players in proper positions will absolutely outperform one with a CB at left back or a midfielder at right back. This is regardless if they are seen as ‘better players’, should only ever happen to cover injuries.

Honestly drives me nuts, team looks like we’ve got about 8 players out injured the way it’s put together

Garner's a better right back than Patterson, definitely.

 

[Clarky cat]

Ich bin NICHT Papa Smurf! Ich weiss nicht, wass Sie sagen.

Je ne suis pas Papa Smurf! Je ne sais pas, ce que vous avez dit.

Brexit means Brexit mate

Papá Pitufo es un viejo azul, valió la pena intentarlo.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Brexit means Brexit mate

Papá Pitufo es un viejo azul, valió la pena intentarlo.

1 Statement of the bleedin' obvious, squire!

2 I don't speak Welsh.

3 And my surname is Portuguese...

 

[SpiritOfTheBloos]

Garner's a better right back than Patterson, definitely.

But he’s not a right back. He’s a midfielder.

This is my point, he might do a job at right back but it’s pointless because if Garner is going to impact the team we need him in midfield. Play an actual right back so Garner can influence the game in his natural position.

Same applies to Branthwaite. Look at the game against United we were absolutely done for pace down the centre and we have got absolutely done over because our only central defender who had any bit of catch up pace was playing left back and up the pitch.

The only times messing around with player position works is if you’ve left with no choice due to injury or it’s a one off tactical change. Insisting with it like Moyes does just makes no sense.

Michael Keane is a better finisher than Beto and Barry and we’ve used him as a target man in the 90th minute if we’re a goal down before. But you’d never genuinely start him up top over a number of games. Because he doesn’t have any of the other attributes needed to play that position longer term. Exactly the same applies to midfielders playing right back

 

[SpiritOfTheBloos]

To prove a point on the value of playing players in the right positions. IMO the two best team performances this season and there’s a common theme to both line ups…. (Coleman did get subbed tbf)

 

[roy vernon]

Didn't want Moyes back, I'm very happy with how he's steadied the ship, but, there's a big decision to make now. We either sack him or extend his contract at the end of the season. We really can't allow him to go into the final year of his deal. For me the best thing is to get shut, but, if the owners don't want to do that, give him an extension.